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[PLO2] Trash hand IP vs dead money in the pot

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pguest
Joined: 01.04.2009

Should I stay away from those spots?
No reads or stats.

$0.02 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: 260 BB
CO: 10 BB
Hero (BTN): 100.5 BB
SB: 155.5 BB
BB: 246 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB, CO posts penalty blind 0.5 BB, CO posts penalty blind 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 3 BB) Hero has 2♣ J♠ J♥ 3♥

fold, CO checks, Hero raises to 5 BB, fold, fold, CO calls 4 BB

Reasoning:

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Villain could have any2. I thought even my hand could be ahead of his random hand, then I raised.
After his call, villain's range is 30%!AA

Flop: (12 BB, 2 players) 3♦ 4♣ K♠
CO checks, Hero bets 9 BB, CO calls 4.5 BB and is all-in

Reasoning:

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Not sure what to do here, but the board favored my range, I still have a middle pair and some str8 blockers and villain is short.

Turn: (21 BB, 2 players) T♠

River: (21 BB, 2 players) 5♥

Result:

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Hero shows 2♣ J♠ J♥ 3♥ (One Pair, Jacks)
(Pre 51%, Flop 71%, Turn 75%)
CO shows A♥ 6♥ 6♦ Q♣ (One Pair, Sixes)
(Pre 49%, Flop 29%, Turn 25%)
Hero wins 20 BB


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Mascherano95
Joined: 09.10.2010

Normally this hand is not an openraise from any position. It´s right to iso-raise and steal as much as possible but first try to get some solid openraising charts, cause if you raise this trash your are probably playing way too many hands preflop.

With showdown-value and barely equity / no blocker we usually would not c-bet this pair hand but with SPR1 at the flop it´s just fine to shove for FE. I´d say at SPR 2 you need a oesd, a pair with additional back-up, a King or better.


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BradNitt
Joined: 22.07.2011

might be close to okish preflop, if you just think about the isoraise itself. he has 10bb, posts 1,5 bb blindfolded so has 100% and does check, so we can exclude at least something around top 6% of range, probably even much more. you have around 56% equity and with all the posted blinds, could be ok to play the spot and try to take down the blinds/ play for the 8,5bb with your equity advantage. problem is just that often still the blinds come along as well.
as played, if you raise pre, then just put in the rest at any flop to go along with your equity.


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Mascherano95
Joined: 09.10.2010

Originally posted by BradNitt
might be close to okish preflop, if you just think about the isoraise itself. he has 10bb, posts 1,5 bb blindfolded so has 100% and does check, so we can exclude at least something around top 6% of range, probably even much more. you have around 56% equity and with all the posted blinds, could be ok to play the spot and try to take down the blinds/ play for the 8,5bb with your equity advantage. problem is just that often still the blinds come along as well.
as played, if you raise pre, then just put in the rest at any flop to go along with your equity.

There are 2 players behind us getting very favourable odds. And JJ32ss performs very bad in any situation with spr above 1.


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BradNitt
Joined: 22.07.2011

yeah i said too that the blinds there probably come along more often than they should on those stakes. the odds arent that great for them if villain has just his 8bb left and they will often have play with a side pot oop.
if we know the blinds are tight or regish decent players then might consider go for it


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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

It's not good spot at all for blinds to come along as there is quite obvious risk of short stack limp-shoving opening chance for hero to 4bet iso.

But lot of people don't necessarily think that far even on higher limits and likely even less in this one. So we definitely want tight blinds for this sort of play as suggested above. So just fold this most of time without good reads imo.


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