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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

SB playing 40% of only 10 hands, but with a 2/3 aggression frequency.

PokerStars, Hold'em No Limit - $0.10/$0.25 - 6 players

UTG (Hero): $24.90 (100 bb)
MP: $32.87 (131 bb)
CO: $25.00 (100 bb)
BU: $8.51 (34 bb)
SB: $29.42 (118 bb)
BB: $25.00 (100 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.35) Hero is UTG with Q♠:K♦:
Hero raises to $0.60, 2 players fold, BTN calls $0.60, SB calls $0.50, 1 fold

Flop: ($2.05) 3♠:6♥:7♥: (3 players)
SB bets $1.18, UTG (Hero) folds, BTN calls $1.18 <<< I normally attack donk bets, but couldn't see that I had enough outs.

Turn: ($4.41) 8♥: (2 players)
SB bets $1.26, BTN calls $1.26

River: ($6.93) Q♥: (2 players)
SB checks, BTN checks

Total pot: $6.93 (Rake: $0.31)

Showdown:
SB shows J♥:K♥: (a flush, King high)
BU mucks 5♣:8♦: (a pair of Eights)
SB wins $6.62


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Dr1fter808
Joined: 11.10.2017

Fold on flop is good. I would fold 5s5d here also.

OC/Set/ST draws that completes some FD on turn has RIO.

Now, 5c8d is interesting because it is open ended, I still think it's a fold though.


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I normally attack donk bets, but couldn't see that I had enough outs.

You should define what V's donk means before attack it. This might cost you money. You should be carefull

Otherwise fold OTF seems fine. You have a player behind as well so raising is not a good idea


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mkBISCUIT
Joined: 19.01.2018

fold seems fine, you are the monkey in the monkey in the middle on this one


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

Seems well played. Especially multy way it's tough to bluff raise with only 2 over cards to improve and with the 2 :heart: you have 6 clean outs

Cheers,
SDK1987


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

Originally posted by NapoleonBonaparte135

I normally attack donk bets, but couldn't see that I had enough outs.

You should define what V's donk means before attack it. This might cost you money. You should be carefull

Otherwise fold OTF seems fine. You have a player behind as well so raising is not a good idea

Yes, I agree.
Generally — as in this case — the donk is either a bluff or a semi-bluff.
There's another reason to let opponent "get away with it" — eventually they'll try it when you have the goods.


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LookAwayNow
Joined: 30.06.2011

First of all we should make a note on BTN that he cold-calls 85o vs an UTG-open - this is waaaaayyy too loose or a miss-click. Post-flop, it's important to consider your UTG opening-range. Do you have 54s and 76s and 33? Personally I don't have them. It's likely that SB has them in their range given the pot odds pre. In other words, SB has a nut advantage both vs you and BTN and this would be a good reason for him to donk. And it's a good reason for us to fold.


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

Originally posted by LookAwayNow
First of all we should make a note on BTN that he cold-calls 85o vs an UTG-open - this is waaaaayyy too loose or a miss-click. Post-flop, it's important to consider your UTG opening-range. Do you have 54s and 76s and 33? Personally I don't have them. It's likely that SB has them in their range given the pot odds pre. In other words, SB has a nut advantage both vs you and BTN and this would be a good reason for him to donk. And it's a good reason for us to fold.

As I'm now playing NL 25, I need to consider what a donking range would look like.
In spins and tournaments (especially freerolls) I'll donk often, especially with a stack advantage, but I'm not so sure about cash games.
In this case, it is possible SB already knew button was playing like this.


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