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Dr1fter808
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Joined: 11.10.2017
Posts: 3,241
20.04.2023, 06:53

GG Poker - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 164.2 BB
SB: 121.76 BB
BB: 250.56 BB
Hero (UTG): 209.48 BB
MP: 161.76 BB
CO: 211.92 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has 6♠ A♠

Hero raises to 2 BB, fold, CO raises to 6.08 BB, fold, fold, BB calls 5.08 BB, Hero calls 4.08 BB

Flop: (18.64 BB, 3 players) 8♠ 5♥ T♠
BB checks, Hero checks, CO checks

Turn: (18.64 BB, 3 players) K♠
BB bets 6.4 BB, Hero raises to 51.08 BB, fold, BB calls 44.68 BB

River: (120.8 BB, 2 players) 9♣
BB bets 90.8 BB, Hero raises to 152.32 BB and is all-in, BB calls 61.52 BB

Spoiler

Hero shows 6♠ A♠ (Flush, Ace High)
(Pre 57%, Flop 66%, Turn 98%)
BB shows Q♠ J♠ (Flush, King High)
(Pre 43%, Flop 34%, Turn 2%)
Hero wins 420.96 BB
Phew, I thought he had straight flush... I need new glasses.

I was playing against two regs, and I thought BB's cold call is interesting.

This hand is a cooler but does QJs have implied odds to cold call for three way 200BBESS pot?


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NapoleonBonaparte135
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20.04.2023, 08:40

Well played! :f_drink:

This hand is a cooler but does QJs have implied odds to cold call for three way 200BBESS pot?

His play is risky if not terrible. He doesnt close the action, he doesnt have position witch cripples his implied odds and is capped


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Dr1fter808
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20.04.2023, 09:42

Originally posted by NapoleonBonaparte135
Well played! :f_drink:

This hand is a cooler but does QJs have implied odds to cold call for three way 200BBESS pot?

His play is risky if not terrible. He doesnt close the action, he doesnt have position witch cripples his implied odds and is capped

Thank you. I've heard arguments where even 72o can be a call once the ESS is titanic because the flop could come 777 or 222, and so on.


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ghaleon
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20.04.2023, 11:17

Crappy hands have obviously negative implieds as well. BB could also cold 4bet.

River lead make no sense for villain.


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Dr1fter808
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20.04.2023, 12:53

Originally posted by ghaleon
Crappy hands have obviously negative implieds as well. BB could also cold 4bet.

River lead make no sense for villain.

I think V donked knowing that he will play the hand for stacks. I say this because he threw up "Nice Hand" Emoji at the end. He is cold calling for three way 200BBESS pot because he wants to make flush on unpaired board which is what he got so his mind is already made up.


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mkBISCUIT
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20.04.2023, 13:23

Think your open from UTG is too wide- callin 3 bet is fine with 2 other villains.

Like the check flop,
Turn crazy sizing on raise, the only thing that could pretty much call you are full houses with that bet size. Villain is just a big rec and it worked out- which is GREAT for us.

But if that is a decent reg- you will get exploited and bleed ev. IMO


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Dr1fter808
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20.04.2023, 13:39

Originally posted by mkBISCUIT
Think your open from UTG is too wide- callin 3 bet is fine with 2 other villains.

Like the check flop,
Turn crazy sizing on raise, the only thing that could pretty much call you are full houses with that bet size. Villain is just a big rec and it worked out- which is GREAT for us.

But if that is a decent reg- you will get exploited and bleed ev. IMO

Yeah, A6s is the worst of the suited Aces. That's true. I am laggier than these regs though.


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mkBISCUIT
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20.04.2023, 15:37

Originally posted by Dr1fter808

Originally posted by mkBISCUIT
Think your open from UTG is too wide- callin 3 bet is fine with 2 other villains.

Like the check flop,
Turn crazy sizing on raise, the only thing that could pretty much call you are full houses with that bet size. Villain is just a big rec and it worked out- which is GREAT for us.

yea i play a lag style as well, i am not even sure if that hand is profit able from UTG, i think it is dependent on 3 bet of villain's behind you

But if that is a decent reg- you will get exploited and bleed ev. IMO

Yeah, A6s is the worst of the suited Aces. That's true. I am laggier than these regs though.


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