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whipflip15
Joined: 25.11.2006
Andy vs. Fish
I'm here to introduce the "back-to-basics" title fight.

In the blue corner we have

Name: Millions of fish.
DOB: Unknown.
Weight: Unknown.
Location: Unknown.
Occupation: Unknown.
Winrate: << 0 BB/100h.

In the red corner we have

Name: Andrew Komodromos.
DOB: 1/7/1987. Weight: ~80kg.
Location: Melbourne, Australia.
Occupation: Mathematician.
Winrate: >> 0 BB/100h.

The rules of the fight are:

  • Andrew can play NL (FR or SH)
  • Starts at 2NL with USD$25
  • Move to next limit with 15 BI
  • Move down when falling below 13 BI
  • Must play 5k hands per week.

To win the fight Andrew must

  • Review all sessions
  • Move up to 400NL within one year
  • Maintain at least 5 BB/100 winrate at each limit
  • Update blog each 5k hands.

Let's get ready to ruuumble....


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whipflip15
Joined: 25.11.2006

Round 1:

Andy vs. 2NL fish.


Targetme
Joined: 04.05.2009

5k hands a weak not much if you want to get to nl400 in a year thats usualy less then I play in a day :O


whipflip15
Joined: 25.11.2006

I have other study and teaching commitments which take up a lot of time (research, preping for lectures and marking). I want around 30k hands a month which is enough to move up a limit at least.


andyb43
Joined: 23.07.2008

80kg...........that makes you a minnow...... :f_biggrin:


whipflip15
Joined: 25.11.2006

Originally posted by andyb43
80kg...........that makes you a minnow...... :f_biggrin:

Minnow?


kennyxx
Joined: 16.05.2008

Originally posted by whipflip15
Minnow?

something like fly-weight _grin:

GL with Your goals, but do not force Yourself to play just because of them. You should play coz You like to and not coz You have to ;)


Melbourne hey? You ever play at crown?
Good luck on your challenge. Also I recommend mixing it up with regs + fish too, as playing with better players improves your game a lot.

Have fun at the tables!


whipflip15
Joined: 25.11.2006

@SheepeMoose: Yeah I play at Crown regularly (twice a week). Usually just play the extremely soft 2/3 game. Very profitable. I think the play is worse than the play money tables online.

What is an average winrate for these micro stakes? 20-30 bb/100?


Tim64
Joined: 03.11.2008

Great first post!

From the little experience I have gained, you should have no trouble at all with NL 2-10. Things get much trickier after that...

At least you should have no trouble with the maths element...

all the best,

Tim


NL2 I would expect a 20+BB (Big Blind NOT big bet) winrate is possible if u play with very few mistakes


whipflip15
Joined: 25.11.2006

I'm almost finished my first 5k hands. Going ok. I feel I'm terribly below EV but it will be interesting to see.

Is there a program which does EV calcs for PT3 databases?


andyb43
Joined: 23.07.2008

Originally posted by whipflip15

Originally posted by andyb43
80kg...........that makes you a minnow...... :f_biggrin:

Minnow?

Small Fish................. :f_cool:


whipflip15
Joined: 25.11.2006

Just had a huge 4 hands! Thought I will post some of the hands whilst I recover.

Hand 1:
Party Poker $2 No Limit Hold'em - 8 players
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter

CO: $1.89
Hero (BTN): $2.00
SB: $2.34
BB: $1.98
UTG: $3.08
UTG+1: $3.79
MP1: $2.04
MP2: $0.97

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is BTN with Ah As
5 folds, Hero raises to $0.08, SB calls $0.07, 1 fold

Flop: ($0.18) 7d 8c 4c (2 players)
SB bets $0.13, Hero raises to $0.36, SB raises to $2.26 all in, Hero calls $1.56 all in

Turn: ($4.02) 8h (2 players - 2 are all in)

River: ($4.02) 2d (2 players - 2 are all in)

Final Pot: $4.02
Hero shows Ah As (two pairs, Aces and Eights)
SB shows 9c 8s (three of a kind, Eights)
SB wins $0.00
SB wins $3.82
(Rake: $0.20)

Hand 2:
Party Poker $2 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter

UTG: $1.52
UTG+1: $3.04
UTG+2: $1.63
MP1: $0.68
Hero (MP2): $2.29
CO: $2.00
BTN: $4.30
SB: $0.42
BB: $1.69

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is MP2 with Ad Jh
2 folds, UTG+2 calls $0.02, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.08, 1 fold, BTN calls $0.08, 1 fold, BB calls $0.06, UTG+2 calls $0.06

Flop: ($0.33) Qd As 5d (4 players)
BB bets $0.02, UTG+2 raises to $0.28, Hero calls $0.28, BTN folds, BB folds

Turn: ($0.91) Qh (2 players)
UTG+2 bets $0.43, Hero raises to $1.93 all in, UTG+2 calls $0.84 all in

River: ($3.45) 9d (2 players - 2 are all in)

Final Pot: $3.45
UTG+2 shows 6d 7d (a flush, Queen high)
Hero shows Ad Jh (two pairs, Aces and Queens)
Hero wins $0.66
UTG+2 wins $3.28
(Rake: $-0.49)

Hand 3:
Party Poker $2 No Limit Hold'em - 10 players
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter

MP3: $2.34
CO: $0.41
BTN: $1.94
SB: $2.87
BB: $8.87
UTG: $3.75
UTG+1: $2.35
UTG+2: $1.96
MP1: $2.42
Hero (MP2): $2.03

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is MP2 with Ac Ah
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.02, UTG+2 calls $0.02, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.12, MP3 calls $0.12, 3 folds, BB raises to $0.22, UTG+1 calls $0.20, UTG+2 calls $0.20, Hero raises to $0.80, 1 fold, BB calls $0.58, UTG+1 raises to $2.35 all in, 1 fold, Hero calls $1.23 all in, BB calls $1.55

Flop: ($7.08) 2c 7s Jc (3 players - 2 are all in)

Turn: ($7.08) 3s (3 players - 2 are all in)

River: ($7.08) Jd (3 players - 2 are all in)

Final Pot: $7.08
BB shows Qh Qs (two pairs, Queens and Jacks)
UTG+1 mucks Tc Td (two pairs, Jacks and Tens)
Hero shows Ac Ah (two pairs, Aces and Jacks)
BB wins $0.61
Hero wins $6.12
(Rake: $0.35)

Hand 4:
Party Poker $2 No Limit Hold'em - 8 players
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter

UTG: $0.41
UTG+1: $1.94
MP1: $2.86
MP2: $9.21
CO: $2.00
BTN: $2.05
SB: $2.28
Hero (BB): $6.12

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is BB with Qs As
3 folds, MP2 calls $0.02, CO checks, BTN calls $0.02, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.15, MP2 calls $0.13, CO calls $0.15, 1 fold

Flop: ($0.48) Jh 2c Qc (3 players)
Hero bets $0.41, MP2 calls $0.41, CO folds

Turn: ($1.30) 6h (2 players)
Hero bets $0.93, MP2 calls $0.93

River: ($3.16) Kc (2 players)
Hero bets $1.25, MP2 folds

Final Pot: $3.16
Hero mucks Qs As
Hero wins $3.02
(Rake: $0.14)

All standard hands. For hand 4 what do people think of the turn line and bet sizing?


whipflip15
Joined: 25.11.2006

After the first 5k hands of the challenge I have turned the $25 into $46.49. At hand I hit a streak of hands (Refer to graph). The last 200 hands I ran really well which improved my mood.
I beat the first 5k hands at 20 BB/100 whilst I ran 5BI below expectation (Nice adjusted winrate of 30 BB/100)

I thought I'd post some stats and a graph. Not much else to say about NL2 except I tend to play pocket pairs (TT and lower) a lot more passively. Limping from EP and CCing a lot of raises from LP.

Does anybody like math? Or have done math at college level?


I am studying economics, so I have had a couple og math courses...


whipflip15
Joined: 25.11.2006

I haven't played online this weekend but I played live at Crown Casino in Melbourne. I was playing a 2/3 game with a $200 buy-in. After about and hour I had only won a few smallish pots and was sitting on ~$270. Then I was BB and UTG and UTG+1 were both terrible poker players and playing any two aggressively. So UTG raises to $20 and UTG+1 calls and CO and BU also call. I look down at AKo. Ponder for about 10 seconds then jammed. UTG folds, UTG+1 calls with 77 and CO calls with K9.
K spikes on the flop and I take down a nice $700 pot. Played for another two hours and ran the stack up to ~$900.
It was a pleasant night which consisted of steak, poker, women and football (my four favourite things). One of the guys a went with won 2.5k on roulette so we were all happy.
Friday nights are my favourite.

I'm not too motivated to play 2NL but I want my roll for NL200 back again without dinting my bank account.