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Muscledude
Joined: 25.04.2024

PokerStars - $0.02 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG+1: 158 BB (VPIP: 22.86, PFR: 5.71, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 35)
MP: 134.5 BB (VPIP: 24.00, PFR: 13.84, 3Bet Preflop: 2.68, Hands: 900)
MP+1: 32.5 BB (VPIP: 7.69, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 13)
MP+2: 40 BB (VPIP: 54.55, PFR: 6.06, 3Bet Preflop: 6.25, Hands: 34)
CO: 117 BB (VPIP: 18.87, PFR: 14.47, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 160)
Hero (BTN): 30 BB
SB: 155.5 BB (VPIP: 12.95, PFR: 7.78, 3Bet Preflop: 3.24, Hands: 896)
BB: 95 BB (VPIP: 13.64, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 22)
UTG: 92 BB (VPIP: 24.06, PFR: 14.32, 3Bet Preflop: 4.88, Hands: 399)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB, MP+2 posts penalty blind 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.5 BB) Hero has Q♣ J♦

fold, fold, fold, fold, MP+2 checks, fold, Hero raises to 4 BB, SB calls 3.5 BB, fold, fold

Flop: (10 BB, 2 players) T♦ 2♥ J♠
SB checks, Hero?


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MeanGreen
Joined: 20.09.2007

Based on this hand and the previous one I replied on, I really recommend you read some more strategy articles or change to a proven guide such as the 2025 beginner's guide.

This is a spot that you want to place a continuation bet for around 1/3 pot size for value. You have top pair and want the opponent to pay you off.
And, as I've mentioned on your other question, take a stack of 100bb at all times.

I advice you to invest time to understand the theory better, the level of questions you're asking is, with all due respect, somewhat below (in my personal opinion) the basics you need before you start playing.


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Muscledude
Joined: 25.04.2024

According to peak GTO this is a clear check as I do not have the range advantage and as I have said before I am playing using the MSS strategy, maybe you should ask first before being so disparaging. Please see Johnathan littles recent you tube video where a hand like this came up.
PokerStars - $0.02 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG+1: 158 BB (VPIP: 22.86, PFR: 5.71, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 35)
MP: 134.5 BB (VPIP: 24.00, PFR: 13.84, 3Bet Preflop: 2.68, Hands: 900)
MP+1: 32.5 BB (VPIP: 7.69, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 13)
MP+2: 40 BB (VPIP: 54.55, PFR: 6.06, 3Bet Preflop: 6.25, Hands: 34)
CO: 117 BB (VPIP: 18.87, PFR: 14.47, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 160)
Hero (BTN): 30 BB
SB: 155.5 BB (VPIP: 12.95, PFR: 7.78, 3Bet Preflop: 3.24, Hands: 896)
BB: 95 BB (VPIP: 13.64, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 22)
UTG: 92 BB (VPIP: 24.06, PFR: 14.32, 3Bet Preflop: 4.88, Hands: 399)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB, MP+2 posts penalty blind 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.5 BB) Hero has Q♣ J♦

fold, fold, fold, fold, MP+2 checks, fold, Hero raises to 4 BB, SB calls 3.5 BB, fold, fold

Flop: (10 BB, 2 players) T♦ 2♥ J♠
SB checks, Hero checks

Turn: (10 BB, 2 players) 3♣
SB bets 5 BB, Hero?


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

This is NL2 and than you don't need to play GTO. On NL2 this is a clear value Cbet against most villains.
As played I would call the bet and re-evaluete on the river. You can bluff catch, but villain seems passive.
I don't expect to many bluffs.

Cheers,
SDK1987


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Muscledude
Joined: 25.04.2024

I do not agree you should be trying to play optimal whether you play NL2 or NL 200, otherwise you have to play differently when you move up a limit.
PokerStars - $0.02 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG+1: 158 BB (VPIP: 22.86, PFR: 5.71, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 35)
MP: 134.5 BB (VPIP: 24.00, PFR: 13.84, 3Bet Preflop: 2.68, Hands: 900)
MP+1: 32.5 BB (VPIP: 7.69, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 13)
MP+2: 40 BB (VPIP: 54.55, PFR: 6.06, 3Bet Preflop: 6.25, Hands: 34)
CO: 117 BB (VPIP: 18.87, PFR: 14.47, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 160)
Hero (BTN): 30 BB
SB: 155.5 BB (VPIP: 12.95, PFR: 7.78, 3Bet Preflop: 3.24, Hands: 896)
BB: 95 BB (VPIP: 13.64, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 22)
UTG: 92 BB (VPIP: 24.06, PFR: 14.32, 3Bet Preflop: 4.88, Hands: 399)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB, MP+2 posts penalty blind 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.5 BB) Hero has Q♣ J♦

fold, fold, fold, fold, MP+2 checks, fold, Hero raises to 4 BB, SB calls 3.5 BB, fold, fold

Flop: (10 BB, 2 players) T♦ 2♥ J♠
SB checks, Hero checks

Turn: (10 BB, 2 players) 3♣
SB bets 5 BB, Hero calls 5 BB

River: (20 BB, 2 players) K♥
SB checks, Hero?


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

I think a optimal play on NL2 or on NL200 is different for sure. On NL200 you play with overall decent players and on NL2 you deal most of the time with bad players. I think you should play different on NL2 than on NL200.

On the river I would most likely check behind of you expect villain could call a weaker Jx hand. I don't think bluffing would be smart on NL2.


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Muscledude
Joined: 25.04.2024

Yes I agree and If you open the betting again you could get bluff c/r by a good player and the K is a bad card anyway.
PokerStars - $0.02 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG+1: 158 BB (VPIP: 22.86, PFR: 5.71, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 35)
MP: 134.5 BB (VPIP: 24.00, PFR: 13.84, 3Bet Preflop: 2.68, Hands: 900)
MP+1: 32.5 BB (VPIP: 7.69, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 13)
MP+2: 40 BB (VPIP: 54.55, PFR: 6.06, 3Bet Preflop: 6.25, Hands: 34)
CO: 117 BB (VPIP: 18.87, PFR: 14.47, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 160)
Hero (BTN): 30 BB
SB: 155.5 BB (VPIP: 12.95, PFR: 7.78, 3Bet Preflop: 3.24, Hands: 896)
BB: 95 BB (VPIP: 13.64, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 22)
UTG: 92 BB (VPIP: 24.06, PFR: 14.32, 3Bet Preflop: 4.88, Hands: 399)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB, MP+2 posts penalty blind 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.5 BB) Hero has Q♣ J♦

fold, fold, fold, fold, MP+2 checks, fold, Hero raises to 4 BB, SB calls 3.5 BB, fold, fold

Flop: (10 BB, 2 players) T♦ 2♥ J♠
SB checks, Hero checks

Turn: (10 BB, 2 players) 3♣
SB bets 5 BB, Hero calls 5 BB

River: (20 BB, 2 players) K♥
SB checks, Hero checks

Spoiler

SB shows A♥ 3♥ (One Pair, Threes)
(Pre 59%, Flop 18%, Turn 11%)
Hero shows Q♣ J♦ (One Pair, Jacks)
(Pre 41%, Flop 82%, Turn 89%)
Hero wins 19 BB
Rake paid 1 BB


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

Hard too tell a 3 would call, but I think it's fine check.


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