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First hand I think I played OK, but didn't finished my way (it wasn't science to play them):

1)
Preflop: Hero is MP1 with A♥, A♠
3 folds, Hero raises, 5 folds, BB calls.

Flop: (4,40 SB) J♣, 9♦, 5♦ (2 players)
BB bets, Hero raises, BB calls.

Turn: (4,20 BB) 7♥ (2 players)
BB bets, Hero raises, BB 3-bets, Hero calls.

River: (10,20 BB) T♦ (2 players)
BB bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 12,20 BB

2)
Preflop: Hero is SB with 8♥, J♥
MP2 calls, MP3 folds, CO calls, BU folds, Hero calls, BB checks.

Flop: (4,00 SB) 9♦, T♦, Q♠ (4 players)
Hero checks, BB bets, MP2 calls, CO calls, Hero raises, BB calls, MP2 calls, CO calls.

Turn: (6,00 BB) T♥ (4 players)
Hero bets, BB calls, MP2 raises, CO calls. EDIT: Hero 3-bets, BB calls, MP2 folds, CO calls. (Yes, there is a mistake and it isn't written in Texas Grab'em either.)

River: (10,00 BB) Q♣ (3 players)
Hero bets, BB folds, CO calls.

Final Pot: 12,00 BB

3)
Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 9♠, 9♣. Hero posts a blind of $0,25.
Hero raises, MP2 3-bets, 2 folds, BU calls, 2 folds, Hero calls.

Flop: (10,40 SB) 2♥, 6♦, 9♥ (3 players)
Hero checks, MP2 bets, BU raises, Hero 3-bets, MP2 caps, BU calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (11,20 BB) 5♠ (3 players)
Hero bets, MP2 calls, BU calls.

River: (14,20 BB) 7♣ (3 players)
Hero bets, MP2 calls, BU calls.

Final Pot: 17,20 BB

4)
Preflop: Hero is BU with 7♦, 8♦
UTG calls, 4 folds, MP3 calls, CO folds, Hero calls, SB folds, BB checks.

Flop: (4,40 SB) 2♦, 6♠, Q♦ (4 players)
BB checks, UTG bets, MP3 raises, Hero calls, BB calls, UTG calls.

Turn: (6,20 BB) 4♦ (4 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, MP3 bets, Hero raises, BB folds, UTG 3-bets, MP3 caps, Hero calls, UTG folds.

River: (17,20 BB) 9♦ (2 players)
MP3 bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 19,20 BB


17 replies

1) I like it

2) Something is wrong with the turn here. Converter mistake?

don't donk the river here. Its now twopaired. Check/call or if there is a bet and a raise fold.

3) ok

4) ok


I have repaired the river. I wouldn't remember it, if MP aggressor wouldn't suddenly folded on third bet.

BTW, river was missplayed, but I just pressed it immediatelly when river was showed.


Remoh
Joined: 11.03.2006

2)
I would bet/3-bet the flop because I don't wanna give any freecards and I'm not sure that somebody will bet the flop. So, what's the better move. check/raise or bet/3-bet?!

3) Don't post the blind in MP1. That have an negative expectation. Post it in CO or in BB. Postflop I agree with ciRith

4) If I count it correctly, you have only two limpers in front of you but you need three -> fold preflop because of the SHC


Third hand I have raised it and i think it is correct (have chart by Miller, Sklansky, Malmuth).

4. hand I would have to fold preflop by the chart, but I liked this hand in type of the game that was on that table.

Which chart do you use? Post me link please.
Thanks again for your time and to put the comment on my hands, both of you.


Ulek
Joined: 01.02.2006

2) No freecards on this drawheavy flop. Bet and raise wherever possible. On the turn you have to back up against a raise and a cold call when the board pairs, so bet/call turn, check/call river or bet river if turn is not raised.

3)I think you could go for a checkraise on the turn. But here a bet is also fine, as the board is drawheavy. The more drawless the board is, the more a checkraise should be preferred. MP2 seems to be on a hight pocketpair so it often works.

4)fine


Originally posted by Cawo
Which chart do you use? Post me link please.
Thanks again for your time and to put the comment on my hands, both of you.

Use this chart on your limits :)

http://www.pokerstrategy.org.uk/en/strategy/2/


Tnx a lot. Can I also add my chart for Small stakes limit game?


schiep
Joined: 11.04.2006

Originally posted by ciRith
1) I like it

2) Something is wrong with the turn here. Converter mistake?

don't donk the river here. Its now twopaired. Check/call or if there is a bet and a raise fold.

3) ok

4) ok

1. Why not call Flop/raise Turn?
2. Bet Flop.


1) I think it is no big difference here. I like to raise the flop directly if there could be many ugly turn cards.


schiep
Joined: 11.04.2006

But the board is not so extreme drawheavy and an unknown villain will almost always bets the turn again. Imo this is a clear spot für call flop raise turn. Mh. Ulek whats your opinion here?


I don't like this board. He can have (since he is on BB) large specter of hands, but could have also OESD or Flush draw, so I thought I have to bet. And I still think so.


Ulek
Joined: 01.02.2006

Originally posted by schiep
But the board is not so extreme drawheavy and an unknown villain will almost always bets the turn again. Imo this is a clear spot für call flop raise turn. Mh. Ulek whats your opinion here?

The more drawheavy the board is, the more i like the call flop raise turn line. If villain has a draw we want to extract maximum value. If he more likely has a weak made hand i like to raise the flop to induce calldowns. This flop is quite drawheavy, so raising the turn would be better.


schiep
Joined: 11.04.2006

Thanks, sounds plausible :).


Ulek
Joined: 01.02.2006

Originally posted by schiep
Thanks, sounds plausible :).

No it doesnt. Made a mistake, which i corrected.


so the more cards we don't like on the turn the cheaper he gets them? and the more he can 3-bet us? or would you switch to calldown if the card may really well helped him?

lets choose an extreme sample:

4s 5s 6s flop, turn 7s.

what if we have:

AA
A6
66


Ulek
Joined: 01.02.2006

We want to make his whole drawing-process expensive, and raising the turn makes it more expensive than raising the flop. In your example i would calldown, which costs the same like a turn raise. We dont have to protect here because the draws came, its almost like a wa/wb situation, so if you raise you get better hands to 3bet and worse hands to fold. No sense in that. Hope your ahead and induce bluffs. General line would be call flop raise turn if it doesnt complete many draws, otherwise calldown.


ok that was what I wanted to hear :) thx