[Closed] JJ Push EP with M of 7

you obviusly can't fold. It's unexploitable to shove JJ there, I guess the question is if raise/call has higher EV than openshoving. I'm going for the raise/call.

Originally posted by alejandrosh
you obviusly can't fold. It's unexploitable to shove JJ there

true the question is if raise/call or openshoving better??

Originally posted by alejandrosh
I'm going for the raise/call.

me too but thats mine style
i dont like to openshove there with that stack, if i have like ~160k or less i'll openshove,
with that stack i'll raise to 36k-38k and Cbet 2/3 pot almoust any flop vs 1-2 callers
but when u open raise and got to call a shove from behind is prety nasty couse when u call u r rarely a big favorit to win (77-TT, AJ, AT) is coin flip AQ,AK,KQ or ur allmoust dead vs QQ+
so i dont think that u got to call a shove with JJ (but that depends of reads that u got on players)

when u open shove u'll rarely got called with worse hands than JJ so when u open shove the range that guys will call u is TT+, AK, and maybe 99,AQs

yea imo JJ are worse pocket to play OOP

I just busted out of the same tourney in 13th place today with AJ vs. AK.

I bet preflop and got min reraised, i called the minraise and flop A87 i bet half pot and he calls.
Turn J, now i got top two pair so i move in last of my chips and he calls and shows AK and then river K kills me:(.
I guess it is not ment for me to even get to the final table of this tourney:(.

i like raise / calling more
with openshove you will only get called by hands that are 50/50 or a huge favourite.
if you just raise somebody might feel its time to shove ajs, 88+
so i like raise/calling > shove
folding is not an option