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[Closed] $2 KK 4-handed UTG 5.5bb i want max value!?

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VBZg
Joined: 06.12.2009

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, 2.25 Tournament, 250/500 Blinds (4 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

saw flop | saw showdown

BB (t7535) (43/5/0/3.7/60) (VPIP/PFR/PFR3BET/AG/No. Hands)
Hero (UTG) (t2835) (14/8/na/59) other two reg probably more info about me
Button (t1670) (20/16/11/2.5/210)
SB (t1460) (13/11/0/4/263)

Hero's M: 3.78

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K, K
Hero calls t500, 1 fold, SB bets t1460 (All-In), BB calls t960, Hero raises to t2835 (All-In), BB calls t1375

Flop: (t7130) J, 10, 2 (3 players, 2 all-in)

Turn: (t7130) 3 (3 players, 2 all-in)

River: (t7130) Q (3 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: t7130

Results:
SB had K, K (flush, King high).
BB had 10, Q (two pair, Queens and tens).
Hero had K, K (one pair, Kings).
Outcome: SB won t4380, BB won t2750

My thinking here was:
1) I have 5.5 bb and im next to post blind
2) BB will probably push next two hands and if i fold have 3bb, in that moment having 9 tables open i just didnt think of what i see now, and that those two after me will not probably call so light (or im not thinking good here, you tell me), but after all im not garanted to survive bubble just because them was even shorter than me
3) considering above, i want do double NOW, i want a call
4) dont get me wrong because i post result, im traying not to be result oriented, post because this is funny, if not really sick, so result here is not important

What i wanted here is just to double up, so i can be sure (at least pretty sure) im getting ITM.

Now, the question is:

1. Why to push here, why not seek value here, because if I push here, isnt that too strong play in eyes of BB (he is loose and with a big stack, think not good as other two), i want to double here, and BU and SB are probably see that im pretty strong just limping there.
2. Is there any chance that after BB called i should just call, or even maybe fold, check-fold after flop,turn,river...


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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

Just shove this. For my eyes your limp looks stronger than shove. At least if you haven't limped a lot in big blind levels. BB might shove light here as it is bubble and you are second stack. Anyway even with KK I would be happy to snatch those blinds right away without collision with big stack.

As played just shove when BB cold call.


ok firstly, we can never fold here. KK is just too strong.

So you can either shove, min-raise or limp.

You are looking to get max value. Limping works best against loose unknowns that will associate your limp with weakness. You can also min-raise for a similar reason, min-raising is a bit less risky because it reduces the likelihood of a multiway pot (which you dont want). You can also just shove, especially if the players know you because if you never limp at high blinds it will seem very suspicious.

All 3 options are fine. But keeping it simple and just shoving is my advice.

nh wp