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Original von Kreatief
hands kaufen bzw. runterladen ist nicht erlaubt, zurecht.

Und ja, es ist mittlerweile wirklich krass nitty. Ich spiele aktuell selbst da und meist sind mind. 3 nits am Tisch mit vpip < 20. Bei 16bb/100 rake da noch Gewinn zu machen ist (für mich) schwierig. Aber das es geht, zeigt ja shuller.

Also shuller spielt auf kein stake <20 VPIP. Mindesten 26/18. Würde ich auch auf den micros absolut nicht empfehlen, die leute overfolden ihren BB doch bestimmt maßlos.

Desweiteren kann ich nur jedem empfehlen sich hände zu kaufen, merkt und verfolgt stars nicht! Ihr könnt euch sicher sein, dass dies alle ambitionierten Spieler ab 100+ machen. Also seid nicht diejenigen, die es nicht machen ;). Wer fair spielen will, muss ins casino heutzutage gehen.

Original von mendouz
Massive bot ring on PokerStars and how to spot them

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/153/high-stakes-pl-omaha/massive-bot-ring-pokerstars-how-spot-them-1537778/

:f_eek:

ziemlich traurig wenn wahr, aber vorstellen kann ich es mir sehr gut. Sind alles relativ neue accounts die es vor 2014 noch nicht gab.


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minez12
Beigetreten: 05.01.2007

Poker Stars $2/$4 Pot Limit Omaha Hi $0.80 Ante - 6 players - View hand 2727840
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BB: $983.60
UTG: $614.00
MP: $971.60
CO: $1039.41
Hero (BTN): $992.40
SB: $1318.40

Pre Flop: ($10.80) Hero is BTN with T :spade: A :heart: A :club: 3 :club:
1 fold, MP raises to $18.80, 1 fold, Hero calls $18.80, SB calls $16.80, 1 fold

Flop: ($65.20) 6 :spade: 9 :diamond: 2 :heart: (3 players)
SB checks, MP checks, Hero bets $44, SB calls $44, MP calls $44

Turn: ($197.20) Q :heart: (3 players)
SB checks, MP checks, Hero checks

River: ($197.20) 8 :heart: (3 players)
SB checks, MP checks, Hero bets $184, SB raises to $600, MP folds, Hero raises to $928.80 all in, SB folds


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mendouz
Beigetreten: 01.01.2007

Poker Stars $0.10/$0.25 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players - View hand 2739968
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BTN: $10.65
Hero (SB): $30.98
BB: $222.82
UTG: $24.75
MP: $31.33
CO: $71.35

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is SB with 6 Q 6 Q
3 folds, BTN raises to $0.85, Hero calls $0.75, BB calls $0.60

Flop: ($2.55) 6 A 6 (3 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, BTN checks

Turn: ($2.55) J (3 players)
Hero bets $1.70, BB calls $1.70, BTN folds

River: ($5.95) J (2 players)
Hero bets $3.99, BB raises to $17.67, Hero raises to $28.43 all in, BB calls $10.76

Final Pot: $62.81
Hero shows 6 Q 6 Q (four of a kind, Sixes)
BB shows 7 5 J J (four of a kind, Jacks)
BB wins $60.81
(Rake: $2.00)

:| :rage:


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Athlon510
Beigetreten: 24.09.2008

Poker Stars $3.00+$0.30 Pot Limit Omaha Hi Tournament - t75/t150 Blinds - 6 players - View hand 2747463
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BTN: t6514 43.43 BBs
Hero (SB): t12130 80.87 BBs
BB: t5796 38.64 BBs
UTG: t16570 110.47 BBs
MP: t5267 35.11 BBs
CO: t2310 15.40 BBs

Pre Flop: (t225) Hero is SB with T :club: A :heart: T :heart: K :club:
UTG calls t150, 3 folds, Hero calls t75, BB checks

Flop: (t450) 7 :diamond: A :diamond: 8 :heart: (3 players)
Hero checks, BB bets t225, UTG calls t225, Hero calls t225

Turn: (t1125) Q :heart: (3 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG bets t450, Hero calls t450, BB calls t450

River: (t2475) K :spade: (3 players)
Hero checks, BB bets t450, UTG calls t450, Hero raises to t4275, BB folds, UTG folds

Final Pot: t3825
Hero mucks T :club: A :heart: T :heart: K :club:
Hero wins t3825

mMn eine interessante Hand aus nem PLO Turnier!
Preflop kann man sicher anders spielen, habe mich aufgrund der Position jedoch zur passiveren Line entschieden.

Flop, Turn denke ich standard gespielt. River war dann komplett weird^^ BB bets 450 UTG calls :f_rolleyes:....
Hier wurde die Hand nun interessant, BB gebe Ich bei der kleinen Bet und meinen Blockern die Straße nicht. (in diesem Fall)
Den UTG call finde ich auch sehr weak da er kaum von einem Raise meinerseits ausgehen kann. aka auch keine Nuts.
Bin erst nach der Riverline wirklich stutzig geworden und entschied mich dann hier zu valuebetten!

Habe Pot gespielt um geplatzte FDs zu representieren die einer der beiden herocallen kann.
Wie gesagt sehe mich aufgrund der Riverbetsize der beiden ahead und wollte fragen ob man das so spielen kann!?

macht die Riverpotbet sinn, so wie ich den Handverlauf dargestellt habe?


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ThisIsNotHere
Beigetreten: 11.12.2008

Poker Stars $0.05/$0.10 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players

BTN: $10.14
SB: $6.30
BB: $10.00
UTG: $10.81
MP: $23.30
Hero (CO): $10.05

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is CO with T 8 6 J
1 fold, MP raises to $0.30, Hero raises to $1.05, BTN calls $1.05, SB calls $1, BB raises to $5.55, MP raises to $19.80, Hero calls $9 all in, BTN calls $9.09 all in, SB calls $5.25 all in, BB calls $4.45 all in

Flop: ($46.63) Q J 7 (5 players - 4 are all in)

Turn: ($46.63) 4 (5 players - 4 are all in)

River: ($46.63) J (5 players - 4 are all in)

Final Pot: $46.63
BTN shows 3 6 5 7 (two pair, Jacks and Sevens)
SB shows 8 9 Q K (two pair, Queens and Jacks)
BB shows K 4 A A (two pair, Aces and Jacks)
MP shows A T A 3 (two pair, Aces and Jacks)
Hero shows T 8 6 J (three of a kind, Jacks)
MP wins $0.18
Hero wins $0.15
Hero wins $14.64
Hero wins $30.16
(Rake: $1.50)

6%, bzw. 13% Preflop Equity für AA


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Typisch Omaha Asse :f_drink:
Falls das Forum noch nicht tot ist, schreibe ich hier mal in Verzweiflung es vielleicht etwas widerzubeleben :f_biggrin:
Mit 4 Villains von denen einer aggro gegen puscht, rechne ich eigentlich schon immer damit das meine AA ziemlich blöd da stehen, aber naja am Ende des Tages sinds immer noch Asse und wie soll man die Preflop bloß je wegglegen?? :f_confused:


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semmel81
Beigetreten: 18.01.2007

Ähja... krasser Scoop:

PokerStars - $0.25 PL Hi FAST (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

natume26 (BTN): $25.00 (VPIP: 34.85, PFR: 25.76, 3Bet Preflop: 11.54, Hands: 69)
Bonesy99 (SB): $48.43 (VPIP: 39.22, PFR: 23.53, 3Bet Preflop: 9.52, Hands: 52)
IMONDADOLE (BB): $60.69 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 1)
TFIF (UTG): $21.90 (VPIP: 21.67, PFR: 13.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 61)
mariola19 (MP): $18.01 (VPIP: 30.56, PFR: 22.22, 3Bet Preflop: 5.88, Hands: 37)
SemmelNy (CO): $26.83

Bonesy99 posts SB $0.10, IMONDADOLE posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) SemmelNy has 9♥ A♠ A♦ J♥

fold, fold, SemmelNy raises to $0.85, natume26 raises to $2.90, Bonesy99 calls $2.80, fold, SemmelNy raises to $11.85, natume26 raises to $25.00 and is all-in, Bonesy99 calls $22.10, SemmelNy raises to $26.83 and is all-in, Bonesy99 calls $1.83

Flop: ($78.91, 3 players) 2♥ Q♠ K♦

Turn: ($78.91, 3 players) T♥

River: ($78.91, 3 players) K♣
Players agreed to run it twice.

Flop #2: ($78.91, 3 players) K♠ T♦ J♠

Turn #2: ($78.91, 3 players) J♣

River #2: ($78.91, 3 players) 6♦

Bonesy99 shows 8♥ 5♠ 6♥ 4♣ (One Pair, Kings)

Board #1 Main Pot [$75.25]: (Pre 36%, Flop 12%, Turn 0%)
Board #1 Side Pot#1 [$3.66]: (Pre 42%, Flop 13%, Turn 0%)
Board #1 Main Pot [$75.25]: (Pre 36%, Flop 12%, Turn 0%) (Two Pair, Jacks and Sixes)

Board #2 Main Pot [$75.25]: (Pre 44%, Flop 13%, Turn 0%)
Board #1 Side Pot [$3.66]: (Pre 42%, Flop 13%, Turn 0%) (Two Pair, Jacks and Sixes)

Board #2 Side Pot [$3.66]: (Pre 51%, Flop 13%, Turn 0%)

SemmelNy shows 9♥ A♠ A♦ J♥ (Straight, Ace High)

Board #1 Main Pot [$75.25]: (Pre 36%, Flop 56%, Turn 100%)
Board #1 Side Pot#1 [$3.66]: (Pre 57%, Flop 87%, Turn 100%)
Board #1 Main Pot [$75.25]: (Pre 36%, Flop 56%, Turn 100%) (Three of a Kind, Jacks)

Board #2 Main Pot [$75.25]: (Pre 32%, Flop 64%, Turn 100%)
Board #1 Side Pot [$3.66]: (Pre 57%, Flop 87%, Turn 100%) (Three of a Kind, Jacks)

Board #2 Side Pot [$3.66]: (Pre 48%, Flop 87%, Turn 100%)

natume26 shows A♣ 4♦ A♥ 7♣ (Two Pair, Aces and Kings)

Board #1 Main Pot [$75.25]: (Pre 28%, Flop 32%, Turn 0%)
Board #1 Main Pot [$75.25]: (Pre 28%, Flop 32%, Turn 0%) (Two Pair, Aces and Jacks)

Board #2 Main Pot [$75.25]: (Pre 25%, Flop 23%, Turn 0%)

SemmelNy wins $38.46
Rake paid $2.00
SemmelNy wins $38.45


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z0nky
Beigetreten: 24.12.2009

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semmel81
Beigetreten: 18.01.2007

$109 PLO8 bei der SCOOP...dacht da gehts um 75%---aber die Hand kann man schwer erraten

https://www.boomplayer.com/23815451_481F32F22B


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semmel81
Beigetreten: 18.01.2007

FT im Omania

PokerStars - 1800/3600 PL Hi/Lo (7 max) - Omaha Hi/Lo - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP: 110,466 (VPIP: 28.73, PFR: 17.87, 3Bet Preflop: 8.16, Hands: 277)
CO: 148,209 (VPIP: 6.12, PFR: 2.08, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 51)
BTN: 107,255 (VPIP: 23.81, PFR: 15.87, 3Bet Preflop: 4.35, Hands: 194)
SB: 180,446 (VPIP: 25.40, PFR: 20.63, 3Bet Preflop: 5.26, Hands: 68)
Hero (BB): 101,448
UTG: 207,176 (VPIP: 20.63, PFR: 12.70, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 68)

SB posts SB 1,800, Hero posts BB 3,600

Pre Flop: (pot: 5,400) Hero has 2♦ 6♠ 4♣ 5♣

fold, MP raises to 7,411, fold, BTN calls 7,411, fold, Hero calls 3,811

Flop: (24,033, 3 players) 6♣ 7♣ 3♣
Hero checks, MP checks, BTN bets 12,000, Hero calls 12,000, fold

Turn: (48,033, 2 players) T♦
Hero checks, BTN bets 29,444, Hero raises to 82,037 and is all-in, BTN calls 52,593

River: (212,107, 2 players) J♥

Hero shows 2♦ 6♠ 4♣ 5♣ (High: Straight Flush, Seven High, Low: 76432)
(Pre 39%, Flop 87%, Turn 93%)
BTN shows A♣ Q♦ 5♥ Q♣ (High: Flush, Ace High, Low: 7653A)
(Pre 61%, Flop 13%, Turn 8%)
Hero wins 212,107


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semmel81
Beigetreten: 18.01.2007

doppelpost


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jonni999
Beigetreten: 30.03.2007

$0.02/$0.05 Pot Limit Omaha Hi
6 Players

Stacks:
UTG Player4 ($5) 100bb
UTG+1 Player5 ($6.10) 122bb
CO Hero ($18.31) 366bb
BTN Player1 ($28.47) 569bb
SB Player2 ($2.53) 51bb
BB Player3 ($11.66) 233bb

Pre-Flop: (0.07, 6 players) Hero is CO A♣ A♦ 3♦ 9♣
1 fold, Player5 raises to $0.17, Hero raises to $0.58, Player1 raises to $1.98, 2 folds, Player5 folds, Hero raises to $6.18, Player1 calls $4.20
Flop: 5♥ J♠ 9♦ ($12.60, 2 players)

Hero bets $12.11, Player1 goes all-in $22.29, Hero calls $0.02

Turn: 2♠ ($47.02, 2), 1 all-in
River: 4♣ ($47.02, 2), 1 all-in

Final Pot: $47.02
Player1 shows
7♣ J♣ 6♥ 10:heart:
Hero shows
A♣ A♦ 3♦ 9♣

Hero wins $35.86 (net +$17.55)

Player1 collects $20.32 (net -$8.15)
Player5 lost $0.17


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jonni999
Beigetreten: 30.03.2007

$0.05/$0.10 Pot Limit Omaha Hi
6 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by WeakTight Poker Hand History Converter

Stacks:
UTG ($4.84) 48bb
UTG+1 Hero ($41.35) 414bb
CO ($9.85) 99bb
BTN ($31.66) 317bb
SB ($5.51) 55bb
BB ($10.85) 109bb

Pre-Flop: (0.15, 6 players) Hero is UTG+1 4♠: A♠: 3♠: A♣:
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.30, CO calls $0.30, BTN raises to $1.35, 2 folds, Hero calls $1.05, CO calls $1.05
Flop: A♦: 3♣: Q♠: ($4.20, 3 players)

Hero checks, CO checks, BTN bets $4.02, Hero raises to $10, CO folds, BTN goes all-in $30.31, Hero calls $20.31

Turn: 9♠: ($64.82, 2), 1 all-in
River: K♦: ($64.82, 2), 1 all-in

Final Pot: $64.82
BTN shows a pair of Aces
5♦: 7♥: 4♦: A♥:
Hero shows three of a kind, Aces
4♠: A♠: 3♠: A♣:

Hero wins $63.32 (net +$31.66)

BTN lost $31.66
CO lost $1.35


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sosa1
Beigetreten: 15.08.2006

wp,nh


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jonni999
Beigetreten: 30.03.2007

Nice Setup zu meinen Gunsten:

$0.05/$0.10 Pot Limit Omaha Hi
6 Players

Stacks:
UTG ($47.60) 476bb
UTG+1 ($18.33) 183bb
CO ($49.47) 495bb
BTN ($10.02) 100bb
SB Hero ($10.44) 104bb
BB ($10.43) 104bb

Pre-Flop: (0.15, 6 players) Hero is SB J♥: 8♥: 4♥: 9♣:
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.10, 1 fold, BTN calls $0.10, Hero calls $0.05, BB checks
Flop: 9♥: T♣: 7♥: ($0.40, 4 players)

Hero bets $0.38, BB calls $0.38, UTG+1 calls $0.38, 1 fold

Turn: T♥: ($1.54, 3)
Hero bets $1, BB calls $1, UTG+1 raises to $5, Hero calls $4, BB goes all-in $9.95, UTG+1 goes all-in $17.85, Hero goes all-in $4.96 River: 6♦: ($39.30, 3), 3 all-in

Final Pot: $39.30
Hero shows a straight flush, Seven to Jack
J♥: 8♥: 4♥: 9♣:
BB shows a full house, Tens full of Nines
9♦: T♠: 5♦: 7♦:
UTG+1 shows a full house, Tens full of Nines
9♠: Q♦: 4♠: T♦:

Hero wins $30.08 (net +$19.64)

UTG+1 collects $7.89 (net -$10.44)
BTN lost $0.10
BB lost $10.43


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MHF2o14
Beigetreten: 25.03.2014

Gratulation. ...


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bluffem
Beigetreten: 14.03.2007

Wo am besten content für hu/SH beziehen? Einige Empfehlungen für PLO 25


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jonni999
Beigetreten: 30.03.2007

PLO25 geshottet:

Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

Hero (SB): $38.71 (154.8 bb)
BB: $25 (100 bb)
UTG: $119.71 (478.8 bb)
MP: $38.08 (152.3 bb)
CO: $59.12 (236.5 bb)
BTN: $47.73 (190.9 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 8♦: A♠: A♦: 8♣:
2 folds, CO raises to $0.85, BTN raises to $2, Hero calls $1.90, BB calls $1.75, CO raises to $10, BTN calls $8, Hero raises to $38.71 and is all-in, BB folds, CO raises to $59.12 and is all-in, BTN calls $37.73 and is all-in

Flop: ($136.17) T♥: 9♦: 5♠: (3 players, 3 are all-in)
Turn: ($136.17) 8♥: (3 players, 3 are all-in)
River: ($136.17) 4♠: (3 players, 3 are all-in)

Results:

Spoiler

$136.17 pot ($2.00 rake)
Final Board: T♥: 9♦: 5♠: 8♥: 4♠:
Hero showed 8♦: A♠: A♦: 8♣: and won $116.13 ($77.42 net)
CO showed A♣: A♥: J♦: J♥: and won $18.04 (-$29.69 net)
BTN showed 6♦: Q♦: Q♠: 6♠: and lost (-$47.73 net)


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BrokenArrow08
Beigetreten: 15.09.2008

Hast du Stats zu den einzelnen Spielern?


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jonni999
Beigetreten: 30.03.2007

Nope hatte noch keine Stats

Heute 2 Hände:

Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $47.64 (190.6 bb)
BB: $25 (100 bb)
UTG: $14.43 (57.7 bb)
MP: $52.14 (208.6 bb)
Hero (CO): $91.85 (367.4 bb)
BTN: $58 (232 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 4♠: A♦: J♦: A♣:
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.62, BTN raises to $2, SB calls $1.90, BB folds, Hero raises to $8.25, BTN calls $6.25, SB calls $6.25

Flop: ($25) 5♣: Q♥: A♠: (3 players)
SB bets $12, Hero calls $12, BTN raises to $49.75 and is all-in, SB folds, Hero calls $37.75

Turn: ($136.50) 6♠: (2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: ($136.50) J♥: (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results:

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$136.50 pot ($2 rake)
Final Board: 5♣: Q♥: A♠: 6♠: J♥:
SB mucked and lost (-$20.25 net)
Hero showed 4♠: A♦: J♦: A♣: and won $134.50 ($76.50 net)
BTN showed Q♣: 4♣: Q♠: K♦: and lost (-$58 net)

Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $36.59 (146.4 bb)
BB: $103.69 (414.8 bb)
UTG: $25.98 (103.9 bb)
Hero (MP): $166.75 (667 bb)
CO: $25 (100 bb)
BTN: $16.87 (67.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP with A♥: K♥: Q♣: T♣:
UTG calls $0.25, Hero raises to $1.10, 3 folds, BB raises to $3.65, UTG folds, Hero calls $2.55

Flop: ($7.65) 4♥: A♣: 5♣: (2 players)
BB bets $5.49, Hero calls $5.49

Turn: ($18.63) J♠: (2 players)
BB bets $13.38, Hero calls $13.38

River: ($45.39) 4♦: (2 players)
BB bets $40, Hero calls $40

Results:

Spoiler

$125.39 pot ($2.00 rake)
Final Board: 4♥: A♣: 5♣: J♠: 4♦:
BB showed 7♣: K♦: K♣: 2♠: and lost (-$62.52 net)
Hero showed A♥: K♥: Q♣: T♣: and won $123.39 ($60.87 net)


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