Nl600 Aa

Hi,

I think your line should be to x turn with your range and river I like overbetting both for value and as a bluff. Bluffs can be like ATs TQs shit like that. I think thats the best way to play your range here. Im not sure if people ever x back qj in his spot, I dont think so.

surprised by how much equity AA have vs the turn calling range.
still too thin tho because if JJ/AQ are calling 100% this is not the case for QsQ type of hands.

assuming vilain doesnt xback a boat v often ott, so i like c/shoving the river if we think he'd fold QQ, Kx vs a BXB line.
if he bets anything < 75 id shove.
not sure about vbetting the river - prolly the highest ev play though.

i wouldnt check my range otr - expect vilain to cback too often AK/QQ Tx type of hands.

Originally posted by serverm07
Hi,

I think your line should be to x turn with your range and river I like overbetting both for value and as a bluff. Bluffs can be like ATs TQs shit like that. I think thats the best way to play your range here. Im not sure if people ever x back qj in his spot, I dont think so.

Are you saying that you advocate checking your entire range OTT?

And when/if turn goes check check, what range would you choose more precisely for overbetting? I don't think we can/should do it very wide, as I do believe the EV of betting 1/2-3/4 would be higher (may or may not be true..). Maybe something like KK,TT since we don't block combos for trips which are basically the only strong hands that I could see him checking back (even if I don't find it very likely) and then just add in the right amount of bluffs (what should our value/bluff ratio be for 1.2x and 1.5x overbets anyway? can't remember...)

And from villains point of view what are the worst hand in his range you would bet OTT? AT, T9s should be turn into bluffs? QQ, KQs, AK check back, rest bet?

1.5x overbet -> gives 1.66:1 to vilain.
so if Hero value bets 10 combos, he should bluff 6 combos.

As for in vilain's shoes
- xback Kx
- vbet Jx+
- bluff <Kx

Depends on vilain's turn strategy obviously, I could very well see him checking v strong hands - hence i dont want to turn into bluffs too many hands (Kx).
With Kx I think xback turn, jam river could get hero folds from vilain. but we need to be quite confident in his sizings/hands he could check turn.

bump

Check raising river is likely better than overbetting for value.

With AA going for a river XR is thin but I actually like it against an aggro reg. Against a more nitty-solid reg it's likely best to just value bet the river big, as QQ KQ and even AK may check back river instead of going for thin value and some Jx may be in his range. Given no info on villain I prefer XR, average 3/6 reg is aggro enough to have almost no better hands and will bet thinly for value.

On turn we have some betting hands of course, AQ KJ and JT are best as value bets I would think. With flushes or KK TT you can slowplay, but I still prefer to just bet flushes. For bluffs I would bet AsT (if you open ATo), QT and 99s.. something along those line.