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maheepsangari
Joined: 08.06.2010

I have a question regarding river calls. Say I face a river bet and I call. For a 1/2 pot sized bet the odds I'm getting are 3:1 so I need to win 25% of the time to break even. Similarly for a pot sized bet I get 2:1 so I need to win 33% of the time. Finally for say a 3x overbet I would need to win about 43% of the time.

My W$SD when I call a river bet is 49%, yet my graph for this filter is a steadily downward sloping one. What am I missing?


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maheepsangari
Joined: 08.06.2010

nvm I figured it out. The breakeven call on river only accounts for the decision and ignores the money I put in on earlier streets where as my graph reflects that as well.


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

another stat that you might find useful is "river call efficiency"
I know that it is on PT4, but I don't know about other trackers.
There was a discussion of this stat a few years ago that is still relevant — https://forums.pokerstrategy.com/forum/thread.php?threadid=440434


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Kyyberi
Joined: 09.07.2010

You have river call efficiency on HM too.

It's important to understand what the stats tell you and what not. W$SD means how often you win at showdown. W$SD when calling river means how often you win when you call a river bet or raise. Sometimes you have the nuts or strong hand and opponent shoves. Sometimes he bets really really small, and you call cos you have the odds. You can't really compare that stat to pot odds for river calls, as they are two separate things. And that stat doesn't correlate that much with whether you are profitable or not on your river calls. River call efficiency is much more better stat for that, as it counts the money invested with calls and compares them to money won with calls.


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marcunek
Joined: 09.08.2016

It seems like you're winning showdowns about half the time you call a river bet, but your overall results show a downward trend. Maybe you're calling in marginal spots or facing tough decisions that impact your profitability.


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