Q6o BB defence

Donking turn would be an out-of-sequence-play. These should be few in number, especially heads up. I like the check-call play, pretty much for the reasons you gave. Your hand is much to strong to bet-fold, and this opponent doesn't seem to be the typical "raise flop for free turn"-player.

Isn't it a bit too loose to defend Q6o in this situation? You can get into trouble with this hand.

I would just fold preflop because Q6o is not a great hand to play in a multiway pot.

As played I think I would x/r the flop and then call down if facing aggression.

Originally posted by DarkLuxor
Isn't it a bit too loose to defend Q6o in this situation? You can get into trouble with this hand.

I would just fold preflop because Q6o is not a great hand to play in a multiway pot.

As played I think I would x/r the flop and then call down if facing aggression.

The reason to call preflop is of course getting > 7:1. Many would call getting only 5:1. (I don't.) The problems with check-raising are that he might not bet, and if he does, he is quite likely to have you beat. It is a tight HJ opening in a 4-way pot, and he has little reason to bet a hand like A9 or even AK. But he is calling with worse hands. There are hands that he should fold to a check-raise (small pp), but probably calls a flop donk + turn bet. The problems with not check-raising is that the CO and the BU gets a cheaper trip (to the extent that we need to protect TPNK 4-ways). Don't know what is optimal.

I understand that we get good pot odds, but we put ourselves into difficult spots (unless we flop a monster), ending up often enough being dominated.

Donking out is obviously a viable option. I am not sure what is better. These are the consequences of defending widely. Guessing games...

Originally posted by DarkLuxor
I understand that we get good pot odds, but we put ourselves into difficult spots (unless we flop a monster), ending up often enough being dominated.

Donking out is obviously a viable option. I am not sure what is better. These are the consequences of defending widely. Guessing games...

Right. I'm not faulting anyone folding preflop. If the opponents are good and you aren't playing your A-game at the moment, then folding is better. Folding is truly horrible only when you are almost all-in.

One point about check-raising I didn't mention is the position of the likely bettor. He (HJ) is out of position, and a check-raise versus the whole pack will result in few folds. But a donk might get raised (because HJ also would want CO and BU to go out with hands like maybe 55-JJ), and has a little more protection value. This last argument would carry more weight with a smaller TP that wants folds from overcards.

But I also don't know, just making my best guesses

He might raise with all the smaller Pocketpairs and once you turned trips, your hand is now strong enough to put in a checkraise or you could check/call the Turn and checkraise the River when a small card hits down and donk on a bigger card. As a default i think its fine to checkraise the Turn.