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mistralx
Joined: 13.08.2014

PokerStars - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: 100.4 BB (VPIP: 26.67, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 16)
BB: 174.4 BB (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 10)
Hero (UTG): 100 BB
CO: 74.6 BB (VPIP: 60.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 10)
BTN: 135.2 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 33.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 16)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has 8♠ 8♥

Hero raises to 3 BB, CO calls 3 BB, fold, fold, fold

Flop: (7.4 BB, 2 players) 3♥ 5♣ 9♥
Hero bets 4.6 BB, CO calls 4.6 BB

Turn: (16.6 BB, 2 players) 3♠
Hero bets 9.6 BB, CO calls 9.6 BB

River: (35.8 BB, 2 players) 5♦
Hero checks, CO bets 21 BB, fold,

Okay - in this spot I am with a fish (60/0 after 10 hands is some kind of info, additionaly he plays 1 table and doesn't fullfill his stack).

Flop - I think I can continue here - he will pay me with many worse hands like 5x, FD, gut shots, OESD etc.
Turn - i think it is quite safe card for me, because he shouldnt have many 3x (if any) and I decided to continue and have a value from the hands I mentioned (ofc he might have some 9x, I think he has more hands that I beat)
River - board is double paired, not a good card for me. I guess it is only a check/fold?

Generally - can we double barrell here for value vs fish?


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Hesticus
Joined: 24.06.2008

I wouldn't double barrel here vs a perceived fish then. We do not draw to nuts and if villain goes over the top we have to fold. Better use them as cash cows in which you benefit the most.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

I like the turn bet. We charge FD and random high cards that have equity vs us.


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YohanN7
Joined: 15.06.2009

We are also charging ourselves if we don't have the best hand, which is entirely possible. We have to check nearly every river regardless, and pray that he doesn't bet. Most of the $ that goes in on the turn goes to him whether we have the best hand or not - unless he is extraordinarily passive. Positional fact of life.

In other words: Don't bet turn if you plan to check-fold most rivers. If you still bet turn, then you at least should plan to bet-fold most rivers. An underpair is generally not good enough to check-call.


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Dadramel
Joined: 10.08.2014

There's plenty of draws, at least 30-50% ott


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YohanN7
Joined: 15.06.2009

Originally posted by Dadramel
There's plenty of draws, at least 30-50% ott

Yes. So you bet. Then what? Hope you don't say check and fold.


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Dadramel
Joined: 10.08.2014

It depends, obviously, if the 5 of diamond comes to the party and he decides to use it to his advantage, I say fold, he's not gonna be likely to bluff on that card, on the other hand the board leaves very few combinations that could've hit and don't belong to 3bet range pre-flop at the same time.


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YohanN7
Joined: 15.06.2009

Makes sense.


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