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I don't think that turn is a clear call, I'd fold actually. Villains sizing is just super strong I don't expect villain to have many bluffs with that sizing. And even if he does, when ppl use big sizing on the turn they tend to barrel on the river aswell and we're forced to fold.

Why on earth did villain check that behind? It just unbelievable how badly regulars valuebet at these stakes!

lol, nh ;-)

I dont agree!

The sizing doesn't matters too much until it is within the scope.
If you say he barrels the river anyway. I have no problem with calling a lot of rivers as bluff catcher. We are just not forced to by the meaning of ballancing.

Folding river is only kind of an level exploit. Players tend to barrel less. Just look what he Xback! Same happens with hands that barrel turn and havo no SD value, they Xback.

I dont think folding turn is an option here. If you like folding turn than just fold the flop bc you will get bets and bad cards too often.

I like the Q bc i am sure that his barreling range is wide enough on the turn at this point.

If we have the read big bet = big hand, i agree that we probably should fold the turn, unless we have that read we are too often wron with it!

PS:
For example I like the overbet with FD OEsd maybe GS on this kind of board bc i see no Fe otherwise bc too many hands have a combodraws. I think espacially on this board a small bet should be very rarely.

Hey Grossmeister,

Preflop defend is fine.

Flop call is pretty standard.

I think turn call is extremely marginal here. It's certainly possible that opponent is bluffing but he also just has a ton of made hands in his range. The Q is also not the greatest barrel card - yes it's an overcard but it also just connects with our flop calling range. Combined with the fact we get a bad price x/f turn is good here imo.