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AK on flushed river

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zauberini
Joined: 08.12.2015

Party, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 8 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $10.05 (100.5 bb)
BB: $10.69 (106.9 bb)
UTG+2: $9.80 (98 bb)
MP1: $8.70 (87 bb)
MP2: $11.79 (117.9 bb)
Hero (MP3): $10.84 (108.4 bb)
CO: $10.76 (107.6 bb) (VPIP 27 PFR 18 AF 2.5 after 11 hands)
BTN: $5.92 (59.2 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with K A
3 folds, Hero raises to $0.30, CO raises to $0.75, 3 folds, Hero calls $0.45

Flop: ($1.65) 5 A A (2 players)
Hero bets $1.17, CO calls $1.17
(maybe check/raise here?)

Turn: ($3.99) 8 (2 players)
Hero bets $2.90, CO calls $2.90

River: ($9.79) 7 (2 players)
Hero bets $4.65, CO raises to $5.94, Hero calls $1.29
(maybe all in here in the first place, but doesnt really matter)


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zauberini
Joined: 08.12.2015
Spoiler

Villain showed Ah10h


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

Preflop you can 4 bet , you can call. I prefer calling .
I would like to hear your line of thoughts postflop. Why did you decide to donk flop and turn?

I prefer letting him bet. Donk on this board is very strong and villain will have hard time to continue. You take away his chance to bluff at you.

On river, why did you leave these $1.29 behind? If you are betting, put him AI.


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scopinad
Joined: 13.06.2015

Nitrol, why do you call a 3bet here, hero is OOP with no pocket pair, I would 4bet AK. Thoughts?


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

With what hands do you think he will call or push there?


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krasops
Joined: 02.02.2014

his size is lol on his 3bet so 4bet is better.....call is not the worse though.

flop x/call always.. dont see any reason to uncover ur hand strength by donking in this flop .... esp when u have the nuts and you are not
the initial ...

Later on turn/river we can choose x/raise ...


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I would have 4bet pre flop, but just calling his 3bet is alright. But since you did just call, you should have checked on the flop. Let him do the betting there. On the turn you played fine. On the river, not sure why you held back $1.29. Should have just gone all in.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

Even vs a wider than usual range we are behind:
MP2 39.78% 23.66% 16.13% AcKh
MP3 60.22% 44.09% 16.13% JJ+, AKs, AKo


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Afulibador
Joined: 21.08.2009

Originally posted by scopinad
Nitrol, why do you call a 3bet here, hero is OOP with no pocket pair, I would 4bet AK. Thoughts?

I would 4bet here too, and stack off if he shoves.


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Afulibador
Joined: 21.08.2009

Originally posted by krasops
his size is lol on his 3bet so 4bet is better.....call is not the worse though.

flop x/call always.. dont see any reason to uncover ur hand strength by donking in this flop .... esp when u have the nuts and you are not
the initial ...

Later on turn/river we can choose x/raise ...

Because of this sizing, I m willing to call way wider this 3bet just for suck out value.


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Afulibador
Joined: 21.08.2009

Originally posted by MrPink578
I would have 4bet pre flop, but just calling his 3bet is alright. But since you did just call, you should have checked on the flop. Let him do the betting there. On the turn you played fine. On the river, not sure why you held back $1.29. Should have just gone all in.

I think the same way... we have to maximize the value with the line we choose. In one hand, if we just call... villain ll probably bet his entire range here. If we 4bet and get called, WE are going to cbet wide.

By calling than donking u can miss value from worse hands that ll not call, but bet themselves.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

Originally posted by Afulibador

Originally posted by scopinad
Nitrol, why do you call a 3bet here, hero is OOP with no pocket pair, I would 4bet AK. Thoughts?

I would 4bet here too, and stack off if he shoves.

Why would you stack off if the numbers are like this:
MP2 39.78% 23.66% 16.13% AcKh
MP3 60.22% 44.09% 16.13% JJ+, AKs, AKo


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

Originally posted by Afulibador

Originally posted by krasops
his size is lol on his 3bet so 4bet is better.....call is not the worse though.

flop x/call always.. dont see any reason to uncover ur hand strength by donking in this flop .... esp when u have the nuts and you are not
the initial ...

Later on turn/river we can choose x/raise ...

Because of this sizing, I m willing to call way wider this 3bet just for suck out value.

In the previous post you say you would stack off. I am confused...


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

Originally posted by Afulibador

Originally posted by MrPink578
I would have 4bet pre flop, but just calling his 3bet is alright. But since you did just call, you should have checked on the flop. Let him do the betting there. On the turn you played fine. On the river, not sure why you held back $1.29. Should have just gone all in.

I think the same way... we have to maximize the value with the line we choose. In one hand, if we just call... villain ll probably bet his entire range here. If we 4bet and get called, WE are going to cbet wide.

By calling than donking u can miss value from worse hands that ll not call, but bet themselves.

And here you haven't decided whether it is better to call or 4 bet...
And we are not cbetting wide postflop...


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scopinad
Joined: 13.06.2015

I just opened the spoiler now. What a cooler. Villain's hand was confuting all blockers Hero could possibly have.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

scopinad,
answer this:
With what hands do you think he will call or push there?


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scopinad
Joined: 13.06.2015

I opened the spoiler, sorry.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

So? We did not 4 bet and he did not push...

If you 4 bet or push what hands are calling and how do you stand vs them?


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Afulibador
Joined: 21.08.2009

Originally posted by nitrol

Originally posted by Afulibador

Originally posted by scopinad
Nitrol, why do you call a 3bet here, hero is OOP with no pocket pair, I would 4bet AK. Thoughts?

I would 4bet here too, and stack off if he shoves.

Why would you stack off if the numbers are like this:
MP2 39.78% 23.66% 16.13% AcKh
MP3 60.22% 44.09% 16.13% JJ+, AKs, AKo

Because AK gets more folds. And have ok equity agaist this range when stacking off.


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Afulibador
Joined: 21.08.2009

Originally posted by nitrol

Originally posted by Afulibador

Originally posted by krasops
his size is lol on his 3bet so 4bet is better.....call is not the worse though.

flop x/call always.. dont see any reason to uncover ur hand strength by donking in this flop .... esp when u have the nuts and you are not
the initial ...

Later on turn/river we can choose x/raise ...

Because of this sizing, I m willing to call way wider this 3bet just for suck out value.

In the previous post you say you would stack off. I am confused...

calling other hands that is not AK.


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