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2reac
Joined: 10.04.2014

Poker Stars $10.00 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players - View hand 2702678
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BTN: $22.08 - VPIP: 21, PFR: 18, 3B: 2, AF: 3,0, Hands: 118
SB: $10.17 - VPIP: 25, PFR: 14, 3B: 5, AF: 3,7, Hands: 101
Hero (BB): $10.04 - VPIP: 20, PFR: 17, 3B: 8, AF: 3,1, Hands: 60774
UTG: $10.39 - VPIP: 25, PFR: 21, 3B: 13, AF: 0,0, Hands: 28
CO: $11.10 - VPIP: 27, PFR: 21, 3B: 5, AF: 3,7, Hands: 263

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BB with 7 :spade: A :heart:
2 folds, BTN raises to $0.20, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.80, BTN calls $0.60

Flop: ($1.65) K :club: 8 :heart: 6 :club: (2 players)
Hero bets $1.00, BTN calls $1

Turn: ($3.65) 4 :heart: (2 players)
Hero bets $2.00, BTN calls $2

River: ($7.65) 7 :heart: (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $7.31, Hero calls $6.24 all in

Villain fold to 3bet 50%(2) BTN Steal 58%

PREFLOP: Vs minraise I prefer 3bet, vs 2.5 or 3X I prefer FOLD

FLOP: My plan was to Cbet F and T to make him fold his pockets 99,TT,JJ or floats and x/fold R
TURN gets GS and I stick to the plan
River is pretty interesting . His bet is polar and I think he would xback a lot of hands from his range like pairs, Kx. He has a lot of missed FD. My A♥ block plenty of flush combos. He could have just K♥x flushes. I beat his missed FD bluffs which are a big part of his range .

IMO this is his shove range:

Masă: K♣8♥6♣ 4♥ 7♥
       Equity  Câştig     Tie
MP2    50.00%  50.00%   0.00% { Ah7s }
MP3    50.00%  50.00%   0.00% { AcKc, AcQc, KhQh, AcJc, KhJh, AcTc, KhTh }

I have 50% eq and I need just 30% to be profitable. What do you think?


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

I do not like the 3 bet and the size preflop.
Your hand is not good for 2 barrel bluff. Turn is a check.


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Alleen86
Joined: 27.05.2010

It really is interesting spot. Against 2x, I would actually flat this preflop. Not sure which one is the best. I bluff alot of weak suited hands in this spot, so I just call offsuit aces and most of the offsuit Kings. I don't like much the flop cbet with just backdoor straightdraw and an overcard. I would prefer BDSD + BDFD or at least a pair + BDSD. Then we hit just a gutshot on the turn, which is better than nothing, but we are still pretty weak, especially since it's a 3bet pot. The river is interesting. I don't see him betting any made hand with this sizing, so it does look like a busted draw... So, I don't mind calling.


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bonecore
Joined: 02.11.2009

that guy has 3bet= 2% so probably he has FT3B higher than 75%

i woult 3bet against this guy with most of my hands and show an automatic profit
if he adjusts and calls preflop often, then he usually plays fit/fold postflop so i win even more by making a c-bet....
However If he calls the c-bet then it;s over

PS: you never have 50% equity there... his range narrows on every street


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YohanN7
Joined: 15.06.2009

The river ...

Originally posted by 2reac
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IMO this is his shove range:

Masă: K♣8♥6♣ 4♥ 7♥
       Equity  Câştig     Tie
MP2    50.00%  50.00%   0.00% { Ah7s }
MP3    50.00%  50.00%   0.00% { AcKc, AcQc, KhQh, AcJc, KhJh, AcTc, KhTh }

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No, this is wrong if he can play.

He is giving you 2:1, therefore the odds should be 2:1 against that he is bluffing. That is 33%, not 43% as you have it. Now, how much should you call? You should call 50%. With 33% and 50% respectively, none of you can deviate without becoming exploitable.

To show that this is a Nash equilibrium, lets say you call 50% of your bluff-catchers and he starts bluffing 100%. What will happen? You win half of the pots he bluffs, he wins half of the pots he bluffs for a net of zero. Suppose he never bluffs. It is immediate that his bluffs (zero of them) have EV = 0.
Next, let him stick to his 2:1 ratio of value to bluffs. You bluff catch 100% with your bluff catchers, then you lose two times out of three and win (twice of what you lose each time when you lose). EV = 0 again. Finally, suppose you never bluff-catch. When you hold a bluff catcher, it is 2 times out of three useless. (That is two saved pot-sized bets). The third time, when he actually is bluffing, you miss out on the same amount by not checking him out.

Neither of you can deviate without becoming exploitable if you both do this right. (Try to prove this yourself.)

Now, what is the top 50% of your bluff-catchers on this scenario? It is surely not a pair of sevens. If you use your holecards as randomizers, then you call too much.

In summary, your range estimate is wrong and you also bluff-catch too much:)


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vanicek222
Joined: 29.04.2015

What was your highest win ?


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marcosmartinez
Joined: 03.07.2013

i wouldnt be 3betting that type of hand pre flop and also wouldnt double barrel that board. .

otr he has a really easy shove with AK and sets, so i dont think u have a call .. you dont have st8 in your range so he can valuebet TP+ hands

do u expect double floats on 10NL? cause thats the only reason of make a call otr...


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3betting is fine because he folds a lot, since he does have a small 3bet %. In my opinion we should give up once he calls our 3bet. 3bet sizing is too big. You get the same result with a smaller 3bet.

IF you want to continue on river then it's just push AI and never x/call


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2reac
Joined: 10.04.2014

against minraise steal I usually make the 3bet 4x.


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marcosmartinez
Joined: 03.07.2013

Originally posted by lukezo
3betting is fine because he folds a lot, since he does have a small 3bet %.

what?

he is folding 50% in a #2 sample


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