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Is it a bad beat?

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LeMahdi
Joined: 10.02.2019

PokerStars - €0.02 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: 62.5 BB
BTN: 84 BB
SB: 114.5 BB
BB: 247 BB
UTG: 100 BB
Hero (MP): 101.5 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A♠ 4♠

fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, BTN calls 3 BB, fold, BB calls 2 BB

Flop: (9.5 BB, 3 players) 5♦ 3♠ 2♥
BB checks, Hero checks, BTN bets 4.5 BB, BB calls 4.5 BB, Hero calls 4.5 BB

Turn: (23 BB, 3 players) 5♠
BB checks, Hero checks, BTN bets 4 BB, fold, Hero raises to 10 BB, BTN calls 6 BB

River: (43 BB, 2 players) 4♥
Hero bets 21 BB, BTN raises to 66.5 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 45.5 BB

BTN shows 5♥ 5♣ (Four of a Kind, Fives)
(Pre 66%, Flop 35%, Turn 98%)
Hero shows A♠ 4♠ (Straight, Five High)
(Pre 34%, Flop 65%, Turn 2%)
BTN wins 165.5 BB

Never thought that he could have quads! I am not mad, just wondering where a 5 came from to form a Quads..


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LeMahdi
Joined: 10.02.2019

Tell me how did you analyze that folding is better option here for me? Because he shoved and not so many ppl go all in OTR?


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Tomaloc
Joined: 17.01.2011

play FAST. make a BIG raise on the flop, etc...
river is a terrible card because now 6x also beats you. i'm not sure what is best, but betting and calling it off definitely isn't it.


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MyFloXyBabY
Joined: 15.02.2010

My god check/calling that flop multiway is quite awful in my opinion. Bet or check/raise.
As played raise way bigger OTT, the sizing is ridiculously low and therefore useless.
When you wait for a cards to double to get most of your chips that's what happens, people have fulls (and sometimes square).


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zerocold77
Joined: 19.02.2019

I think only call OTF is bad in this situation. 3-bet OTT is very wrong in my opinion because you loose the second nuts and now loose for any fullhouse. Only call in OTT is the best option even being street flush draw for river.
And OTR is very bad open raise 1/2 pot with this board. And call on 3-bet is not a bad beat. It's a wrong open raise and call 3-bet in my opinion.
Badly played hand.


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flygo
Joined: 04.02.2019

You are the pre-flop aggressor, why slow play?
But of course, I don't think button would have folded his set on the flop.
So the result might have been the same.


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

I would play this straight forward and fast. Just bet the flop or then go with the check raise. I would prefer betting.

Originally posted by LeMahdi
Tell me how did you analyze that folding is better option here for me? Because he shoved and not so many ppl go all in OTR?

People simply don't raise rivers as a bluff very often. This board is paired so full houses and quads are possible. Also any 6 beats you.

After villain bets the flop multiway, calls a turn check raise multiway and raises the river, I don't think he has total air or just overpairs very often. So the best case scenario could be that you are splitting with another A.


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Oly0909
Joined: 08.06.2008

Originally posted by MyFloXyBabY
My god check/calling that flop multiway is quite awful in my opinion. Bet or check/raise.
As played raise way bigger OTT, the sizing is ridiculously low and therefore useless.

Nothing more to add


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

I would always bet on every street at least half pot with a straight. Now you give all players decent odds.

On the river you need to fold on his shove I think. He has often a full house.


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