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KK 183bb deep

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Avterlife
Joined: 07.09.2012

iPoker - £0.04 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (CO): 183 BB
BTN: 98.25 BB (VPIP: 26.67, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 17)
SB: 79.25 BB (VPIP: 36.36, PFR: 9.09, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 22)
BB: 104 BB (VPIP: 57.14, PFR: 42.86, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 8)
UTG: 193 BB (VPIP: 53.21, PFR: 22.02, 3Bet Preflop: 5.13, Hands: 110)
MP: 234.75 BB (VPIP: 25.40, PFR: 6.35, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 63)

6 players post ante of 0.25 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 3 BB) Hero has K♠ K♦

UTG raises to 3 BB, fold, Hero raises to 11 BB, fold, fold, fold, UTG calls 8 BB

Flop: (25 BB, 2 players) 3♣ 8♥ 2♣
UTG checks, Hero bets 13 BB, UTG raises to 26 BB, Hero raises to 76 BB, UTG raises to 177 BB, Hero calls 95.75 BB

Turn: (368.5 BB, 2 players) 6♣

River: (368.5 BB, 2 players) Q♦

Spoiler

Hero mucks K♠ K♦ (One Pair, Kings)
(Pre 81%, Flop 8%, Turn 2%)
UTG shows 8♦ 8♣ (Three of a Kind, Eights)
(Pre 19%, Flop 92%, Turn 98%)
UTG wins 349.25 BB

Im not sure if I played this KK properly, due to my calculation I was ahead of his flop raise range, I think that 100bb deep that would be a nice play but I'm not sure if it's still good 200bb deep, maybe I should just call his raise and future v bets and maybe decide river?


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stompy91
Joined: 09.04.2012

If you were only 100bb deep I think it's pretty easy to stack off but this deep I'd try to fold to the 5-bet shove and save a buy in. A lot of aggression at NL5 is almost always nutted hands.
As played I would bet larger on the flop around 17BB and decide from there.


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Dadramel
Joined: 10.08.2014

Should've bet bigger otf, then reevaluate if raised. Those weak sizings are very vulnerable at micros, usually induce raises.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

We are very deep, so I do not like to play for stacks.


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MJPerry
Joined: 03.10.2011

It's NL4 versus a fish. He won't care how deep we are, nor will he recognise the fact that just because a hand like TT is an overpair he shouldn't stack off with it. I'm totally happy to get it in with KK here and if he's flopped a set then good for him.


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YohanN7
Joined: 15.06.2009

I don't like the flop re-raise. Versus a normal opponent it is reraising with a bluff catcher. Versus a fish, well, while fish are fish, they usually don't hate money and try to win rather than lose big. Trying to exploit hands like QQ/JJ/TT/99 for 190 bb is so greedy that it clouds judgment and deserves punishment. Small hand - small pot. Getting it in here relies on the read that, in addition to being suboptimal poker players, they are also - as a general rule - downright stupid. If you insist on getting it in, then let him do the betting keeping his trash safely in his range. Usually, even this will not succeed, but will result in a smaller win if you are ahead. Be content with that. You have a pair, not a set.


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Avterlife
Joined: 07.09.2012

Thanks guys for opinions. I sometimes find myself doing something on automatic pace I snap called his 5bet shove if you are curious. I can easily count profit by winning smaller pots and exploiting opponents but from time to time comes the spot where I can't press fold button and this pretty ruins my whole profit. I need to seriously evaluate each action.


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

With 100bb stack this would be ok. When we are deep I think we should't play for stack with only a pair. But I agree that we are ahead of his range OTF. He just got lucky.


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