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SuperChompa
Joined: 26.07.2016

PokerStars - €0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BB): 107.8 BB
UTG: 78.4 BB (VPIP: 14.29, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 9)
CO: 104 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 22.50, 3Bet Preflop: 6.67, Hands: 41)
BTN: 98.6 BB (VPIP: 17.24, PFR: 9.20, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 91)
SB: 53.6 BB (VPIP: 22.58, PFR: 9.68, 3Bet Preflop: 8.33, Hands: 32)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has K♥ K♦

UTG calls 1 BB, CO raises to 5 BB, fold, SB calls 4.6 BB, Hero raises to 20 BB, fold, CO calls 15 BB, fold

Flop: (46 BB, 2 players) 6♦ 7♥ Q♥
Hero bets 23 BB, CO calls 23 BB

Turn: (92 BB, 2 players) 9♦
Hero ???

Hi guys ! What's the best play OTT? (I assume before it's ok, but any suggestions are welcome too :) )
Thanks !


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

I think you have two options. Either shove or bet around 30bb.


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MyFloXyBabY
Joined: 15.02.2010

I only see myself shoving the about 60BB remaining here.


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Sunrise1912
Joined: 24.11.2009

You block the 2 flushdraws, so i am keen to use a different strategy on the turn - check with the intention to call or check with the intention to ship the river (if he checks behind) on any card but an ace.

A huge part of his range is JJ and AQ KQ, You are basically folding JJ and KQ if you bet/push the turn and there is a chance that he also folds AQ here. I dont think he has 89 or 45 type of hand so a free card would not be such a threat.

Vs sets you are stacked regardless.


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SuperChompa
Joined: 26.07.2016

Thanks for the replies ! In game I though he might call me with AQ, and I was like I don't want to see a 3rd heart here so I shoved into queens, and I was doubtful if my move was ok. But from your answers I feel better and I guess that was just a bad beat.
Now with deeper analyse, I agree that he had not many flush draws you are right Sunrise1912, and playing check / call OTT would allow get more values from some hands that he definitely has in his range.


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msp3101
Joined: 19.04.2016

Nice size 3bet. shove the flop.


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

Even if we block flush draws I still wouldn't like to give free cards on this board. That is why I would like to underbet. We keep Qx and JJ and other stuff in his range and if he has that flush draw we are still making money even with the small bet size.


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Mozzek
Joined: 16.07.2016

I would definitely bet the turn. 1/2 of the pot. The question is, if it´s better to shove right there. Probably betting 1/2 of the pot and leaving our stack to be around 20BB doesn´t sound that good, so I would shove.


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YohanN7
Joined: 15.06.2009

I don't know what is the right sizing, but shoving cannot be right. An FD can't call a shove, and an AQ should find it extremely problematic. No better hand is folding, so it wouldn't work as a bluff. Perhaps make it 35 bb (leaving a ridiculous 25 bb behind). Draws can now not call profitably (including implied odds), but might do so anyway, and AQ might well call.

This problem deserves an analysis:f_rolleyes: Weird remaining stack sizes.


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kazkas777
Joined: 02.10.2010

Shove.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

I am not sure it is right but I prefer betting like 30BB on turn.


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msp3101
Joined: 19.04.2016

Originally posted by YohanN7
I don't know what is the right sizing, but shoving cannot be right. An FD can't call a shove, and an AQ should find it extremely problematic. No better hand is folding, so it wouldn't work as a bluff. Perhaps make it 35 bb (leaving a ridiculous 25 bb behind). Draws can now not call profitably (including implied odds), but might do so anyway, and AQ might well call.

This problem deserves an analysis:f_rolleyes: Weird remaining stack sizes.

I've had many baby flush draws call against me for their stack at these limits :f_drink:


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MyFloXyBabY
Joined: 15.02.2010

Originally posted by msp3101

Originally posted by YohanN7
I don't know what is the right sizing, but shoving cannot be right. An FD can't call a shove, and an AQ should find it extremely problematic. No better hand is folding, so it wouldn't work as a bluff. Perhaps make it 35 bb (leaving a ridiculous 25 bb behind). Draws can now not call profitably (including implied odds), but might do so anyway, and AQ might well call.

This problem deserves an analysis:f_rolleyes: Weird remaining stack sizes.

I've had many baby flush draws call against me for their stack at these limits :f_drink:

Oh yes they do call FD, and AQ calls every day etc... so ok shoving might not be the best and safest, but you can't say it's not valuing anything, you liar :P


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SuperChompa
Joined: 26.07.2016

On the same kind of spot 3 bet pot OOP, but with no showdown value (say for example Ac4c missed) I usually play the same way until the turn. And when I check the turn I get pushed out by people that like to steal when checked to on the turn.
So now I will bet flop and check turn, with strong made hands so that they try to steal. Here if checked OTT he could definitely jam AQo, JJ, TT and flush draws against my kings.


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