KQ called 3b OTB

Not folding here, you need ~32% of eq on the river to breakeven. Look how you do against a tight range:

Board: Q♦2♠2♣ 2♥ 8♥
       Equity     Win     Tie
MP2    29.17%   0.00%  29.17% { KhQc }
MP3    70.83%  41.67%  29.17% { QQ+, AQs, KQs, AQo, KQo }

So you are doing pretty close to ~32 against a very tight range, and you can include other combos of QJ and QT even if villain isnt 3betting that light.

Its not a great spot and you are going to split-lose a lot but you cant fold here I think.

Do no forget he could easily have AA,KK here as well. Call down in 3 bet pot with a dominated hand is not good.
But in this particular case we should decide how many Qx hands villain has and compare it to the AA-KK combos.

Originally posted by dcabello
Not folding here, you need ~32% of eq on the river to breakeven. Look how you do against a tight range:

Board: Q♦2♠2♣ 2♥ 8♥
       Equity     Win     Tie
MP2    29.17%   0.00%  29.17% { KhQc }
MP3    70.83%  41.67%  29.17% { QQ+, AQs, KQs, AQo, KQo }

So you are doing pretty close to ~32 against a very tight range, and you can include other combos of QJ and QT even if villain isnt 3betting that light.

Its not a great spot and you are going to split-lose a lot but you cant fold here I think.

This range is pretty accurate imo. I might add Ad2d in as well, is only 1 combo but makes a difference when we are dealing with narrow ranges.

I might say something like this:

Equity Win Tie
BU 31.03% 0.00% 31.03% KhQc
SB 68.97% 37.93% 31.03% QQ+, AQs, A2s, KQs, QTs+, AQo, KQo

So its close but its a fold; if we need 32% it is still -EV to call with 31%. + rake as well.

I like the fold.

Originally posted by metza

Originally posted by dcabello
Not folding here, you need ~32% of eq on the river to breakeven. Look how you do against a tight range:

Board: Q♦2♠2♣ 2♥ 8♥
       Equity     Win     Tie
MP2    29.17%   0.00%  29.17% { KhQc }
MP3    70.83%  41.67%  29.17% { QQ+, AQs, KQs, AQo, KQo }

So you are doing pretty close to ~32 against a very tight range, and you can include other combos of QJ and QT even if villain isnt 3betting that light.

Its not a great spot and you are going to split-lose a lot but you cant fold here I think.

This range is pretty accurate imo. I might add Ad2d in as well, is only 1 combo but makes a difference when we are dealing with narrow ranges.

I might say something like this:

Equity Win Tie
BU 31.03% 0.00% 31.03% KhQc
SB 68.97% 37.93% 31.03% QQ+, AQs, A2s, KQs, QTs+, AQo, KQo

So its close but its a fold; if we need 32% it is still -EV to call with 31%. + rake as well.

I like the fold.

Yeah this seems way more accurate. I forgot about A2s. Nice fold.

i played that hand with you,i had aq fyi:f_love:

why don't you give him any bluffs? i think AK is a very decent 3barrel here

@pappadjango for real?
I was pretty sure you had aces or Kings
:-)

@Tomaloc , i was just sure he at Worst had a Q and i could split at best

Originally posted by Tomaloc
why don't you give him any bluffs? i think AK is a very decent 3barrel here

That is one of the reasons that make me think of a call here given that this is close, you cant say that villain has 0% bluffs here (its a spot where you dont see bluffs anyways thats true).