pocket pair zoom table

I like the way you played this.
Most of the time, playing passively is -EV, but in this case it suits your hand and the board.

I would consider to isolated the 2 limpers with a 6x raise. Especially on a passive table.

As played I would fold to the huge raise. Based on the call 20 rule for set value.

Post flop is fine against a unknown. If villain has better on turn you had faced a Cbet on flop most likely.

Cheers,
SDK1987

Only one thing what i disagree with you, the call20. I think especially nowdays better if you couint call15, NL2-Nl10 enough this. And i see same rocks too who 3beted J10s or 76s, AJo, AJs. And they 3 bet range about 3. So this is little bit tricky. If i have position for villain i think especially middle pair 66-99 enough to call pre against 3bet.

Problem with the call-20 rule-of-thumb it assumes that you can get stacks with your set.
This happens rarely IMHO

Rarely? NL2 and most of time NL5 field if villain have 1010++ can able stack off if this is over pair. So i keep my opinion call is ok here pre. I guess rarely when villain try bluff AK especailly 2 barells.

Tend to fold this pre. Whatever the rule of thumb is, it is a lot of money pre and less implied odds.

So what is your call range here? 1010-QQ, KK? and AK? What is easy readable if you play only rock or super nit especially pre flop. Almost you have 0 change to win big pot against another nit or reg. And i had got call15 rule because i sat here 126 BB opppent even more.

I doubt you win a lot of money against the so called supernit nor the rock pre. You called a limp pre to get a decent pot against the fishes I guess. The only reason why I play this game is to play against the recreationals. Against the fold machines pre, there you exploit by folding.

And by limp calling against thinking opponents your range is pretty much face up with implied odds hands.

Just AA,KK and get it in though

Ok. So you snap fold against 3bet pre 1010-QQ and AK too. Ok, thanks your "usufull" advice.

It's a 2-bet pre... cause the limping though. And he pumps it really up. Therefore, exploitable you can overfold I guess.

But do whatever you want with this golden advice.

Yes, but 2bet size here similar than like 3bet average size. So i think if hero miss click or slow played QQ-1010 i guess hero always has to call these hands 12 BB 2bet raise too pre flop, especially has the position. If we see villain probably pre flop oop tight range: TT+,AQs+,AQo+. I have got 50% with JJ and QQ. But most of time even he probably nit he will 2bet range pre flop wider range, about A10o+ and KJs+ and 88++. This range i have got 60%.

Another hand when i isolated the limpers. Post flop i can only do against 3 players with give up and fold. And i guess i have to give up against 2 player too this board.

$0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players

SB: $2 (100 bb)
BB: $1 (50 bb)
UTG+1: $1.87 (93.5 bb)
UTG+2: $3.88 (194 bb)
MP1: $2.72 (136 bb)
MP2: $2.61 (130.5 bb)
Hero (MP3): $2.17 (108.5 bb)
CO: $3.64 (182 bb)
BTN: $3.45 (172.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with 4♣: 4♠:
2 folds, MP1 calls $0.02, MP2 calls $0.02, Hero raises to $0.20, 2 folds, SB calls $0.19, BB calls $0.18, MP1 calls $0.18, MP2 folds

Flop: ($0.82) 8♣: 6♠: 3♠: (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, MP1 checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($0.82) T♥: (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, MP1 checks, Hero checks

River: ($0.82) 2♠: (4 players)
SB checks, BB bets $0.40, MP1 raises to $1.99, 2 folds, BB calls $0.40 and is all-in

I would isolate with a different type of holding 99+, KT+ QJ+ stuff like that. That can flop frequent a pair that is dominating preflop limpers. The holding doesn't flop that well most of the time, and now you are spewing a lot of money preflop without a hand that is good in standing heat with a few overcards though.

Yes, just i posted 44 hand because i think better overlimp after 2 limpers especially low pocket pairs (22-55). IF i don't hit a set the flop most of time i can't play value against 2-3 players. Maybe isolate after 2 limpers better these range: 88++ and KJs+, A10o+.
2nd hand if hero had AA or KK without spade what the plan? Flop about 26-28 BB cbet and if will be two callers the flop, the turn give up or push all in with left stack about 70 BB? Or 35 BB cbet the turn and fold save 35 BB or always have to call if someone raise push? FD can able call or raise push the turn and 10x especially A10 more change As10x. And some slow played over pair JJ-QQ?