SH - JTs MWP OOP combo draw

You have to bet bigger OTR to motivate the turn call. Even if you might have more than flush outs, he isn't calling each time you hit (and occasionally he'll have you crushed with K♥:Q♥: or a surprise hand like Q♥:2♥:♦).

Preflop: This is an okay hand to 3-bet (unlikely to be dominated and picks up a lot of draws to gamble/bluff with), but unlike others, I like to do most of my 3-betting (which by the way is a fair amount) in position.

EDIT: I see now that the button had joined the party. This makes me even more inclined to just call, but others (whose opinion I respect, thought it doesn't always sound that way:D) will reason the other way around and throw in a big raise.

Flop: Respect that flop vs UTG. It is not the time to bluff. Check-call a reasonable (say up to pot-sized) bet.

Turn: Be aware here that it is difficult to extract money if you hit. The board will the look scary.

With open raise+call we can call from SB here. Our hand playes ok in mw pots.
You should bet bigger on river when you hit. PLus some Kx may call.

I personally don't like calling pre because we don't have a nutted connector. However, we also can approach the situation as such that when you make a flush, you more likely will win than you will get a flush over flush.

We indeed should bet bigger OTR as villain bets mw twice. This means he has a strong hand and many hands will call you off. The more hands call you off, the larger your bet can be OTR here.

I'm not sure we could get flush over better flush often. There is only 1 possible combo - KhQh (we block by JhTh - QhJh, QhTh, KhTh) Villain opened from UTG and his betting size OTT seems like a value with AX, probably 2p+, with another draw he would probably will take check behind bcs our calling range contains FD, AX, straight, may be sets.
Please, correct me if I'm wrong - why do you guys think we need to bet bigger sizing OTR if OTT hero had a slightly -EV?
Vs possibly beet range OTT (AA,QQ,TT,44,AJs+,QTs,ATo+) we have 28%, but our call odds are 0,9/(1,22+0,9+0,9)=0,298~ 0,3= 30%. So, if we bet bigger it is obvious flush closed OTR. Which hand would call flop and call turn and lead river? I guess it is only flushes or straights. But if hero would have straight, he would raise the turn, which he didn't, that mostly means he is mostly having flush.

Originally posted by tiltmonk
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Please, correct me if I'm wrong - why do you guys think we need to bet bigger sizing OTR if OTT hero had a slightly -EV?
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If you don't have enough in implied odds to draw, then don't draw. Fold.

I would fold this preflop, but I'm a nit. ♦ Would call just in case UTG or/and BTN or/and BB is loose/passive fish and BB is not squeeze-happy.

Was once (eons ago) playing with a couple of pros (live, donating money). I folded JTs to a 3-bet, said "making a nitty fold", folded and put a chip on the cards (which was required if you wanted to show your hand after the event). When I turned over the hand they both said with emphasis, "that's not a nitty fold, that's an idiot fold".

Surely you can play JTs for a single raise. It is the mother of suited connectors and always makes the nut straight if a straight is made with both hole cards. Stuff like KQs has the same properties, but is more dangerous (though I play them too).