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Should've fold flop here?

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rvnikauj
Joined: 03.02.2017

PokerStars - €0.02 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 103.5 BB (VPIP: 22.08, PFR: 16.23, 3Bet Preflop: 1.85, Hands: 155)
SB: 235 BB (VPIP: 10.53, PFR: 9.28, 3Bet Preflop: 6.25, Hands: 486)
BB: 100 BB (VPIP: 60.00, PFR: 30.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 11)
UTG: 221.5 BB (VPIP: 48.57, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 36)
Hero (CO): 139.5 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K♥ A♠

fold, Hero raises to 4 BB, fold, fold, BB calls 3 BB

Flop: (8.5 BB, 2 players) 2♦ K♠ 4♦
BB checks, Hero bets 5.5 BB, BB raises to 11 BB, Hero raises to 16.5 BB, BB calls 5.5 BB

Turn: (41.5 BB, 2 players) 5♥
BB bets 40 BB, Hero raises to 119 BB and is all-in, BB calls 39.5 BB and is all-in

River: (200.5 BB, 2 players) A♥

Spoiler

BB shows 3♥ K♦ (Straight, Five High)
(Pre 23%, Flop 17%, Turn 16%)
Hero shows K♥ A♠ (Two Pair, Aces and Kings)
(Pre 77%, Flop 83%, Turn 84%)
BB wins 192.5 BB


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

I would most likely call the min raise on the flop and try to get it cheap as possible at the showdown. If I would 3bet I would make it at least 25bb or something and fold on a shove.

Cheers,
SDK1987


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smerti1111
Joined: 31.03.2009

I dont't get it, you put the money 84% favorite and still want to improve?


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

I expect on long run you aren’t that much the favorite or villain in this hand like to stack of with any random K. Against an unknown it’s not too likely this will be the case and I expect you are more often against a strong made hand or in best case a flush draw then against another K. In this case I would make a note for sure.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

The min raise on flop can mean anything and we may not be such a favourite here. As it is a single raised pot our hand does not need a big pot.
We will win small pots and lose big ones.
Here we should make a note and Mark this villain.


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

I would call the flop minraise too. It can be weak, it can be strong. However by 3betting there you isolate yourself against sets. And stacking off OTT with TPTK when villain has shown that much aggression can't be good.
You were lucky that villain was a fish but I would expect you to lose this hand very often.


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tiltmonk
Joined: 02.07.2014

Villains called your 3b OTF and donked POT OTT, seems pretty strong. Even he looks like a fish, there are not so much hands, he just could get good hands before. Vs uknown I guess it is at least fold OTT., mostly bcs of his action. To me, it is mostly 2P+ OTF, most probably 22 or 44. Just call OTF and vs agro continuation -> fold.


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oI2ange
Joined: 21.07.2015

Well played on all streets vs. this donk. I like the flop 3-bet vs. him.


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Mauslord
Joined: 06.09.2011

no need to get broke in an unraised pot without reads :f_drink:
i like SDKs line


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