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Every good reg would bet here missed FD, missed SD, J, pairs. Your sizing is problem, players on this levels are gonna float a lot. I would call this and make a note.

River he donks 1/2 and it looked like ultra value bet imo.

Or he might bet this exactly because it looks ultra value and make you fold what you have.
I think I will call OTR.

Originally posted by Chstal
Every good reg would bet here missed FD, missed SD, J, pairs. Your sizing is problem, players on this levels are gonna float a lot. I would call this and make a note.

I don't think my size is a problem here. Board is relatively dry.
I want him to float a lot, especially OOP, that's why I used a small size (about 30%). I don't see the point of betting big here.

Turn and river plays are my doubts here. I'm capping myself by checking the turn IP, that's why I can't represent much by raising river (and I really don't see the point of this too).
I wanted to know how you guys think we should play this turn. Bet again and check back river is probably ok. In this scenario, what size should we use?

I believe I can look like a totally missed hand OTR too and that the turn check might induce some bluffs.
This spots where I get donked OTR is one of parts I'm trying to improve at the moment because I notice I still make some errors regarding hand planning and I know that at the moment my game is a bit exploitable when facing river donks.
Thank you both for your replies.

Yeah it's exploitable, not a big deal though, this is 5NL. If you have a problem with calling river donks, it's better to bet OTT and check OTR. But when you checked the turn, you must call the river, or you will be folding almost everything, because you never have a strong hand OTT and you are folding all weak made hands.

Originally posted by zetozinho

Originally posted by Chstal
Every good reg would bet here missed FD, missed SD, J, pairs. Your sizing is problem, players on this levels are gonna float a lot. I would call this and make a note.

I don't think my size is a problem here. Board is relatively dry.
I want him to float a lot, especially OOP, that's why I used a small size (about 30%). I don't see the point of betting big here.

Turn and river plays are my doubts here. I'm capping myself by checking the turn IP, that's why I can't represent much by raising river (and I really don't see the point of this too).
I wanted to know how you guys think we should play this turn. Bet again and check back river is probably ok. In this scenario, what size should we use?

I believe I can look like a totally missed hand OTR too and that the turn check might induce some bluffs.
This spots where I get donked OTR is one of parts I'm trying to improve at the moment because I notice I still make some errors regarding hand planning and I know that at the moment my game is a bit exploitable when facing river donks.
Thank you both for your replies.

Bet flop, bet turn and x river or bet flop, x turn and call river or x river. Betting 1/3 pot on flop and x turn you look so weak, you dont represent anything. Watch some streamers how they deal with same situation. You have 2-3 guys playing NL100. You can expand your knowledge about this spots.

X flop. Bet fold turn. Bet fold river would be my play

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Thank you guys.
Chstall can you indicate some names?

Originally posted by AlvisR
X flop. Bet fold turn. Bet fold river would be my play

What sizes would you use? And why do you advocate checking back OTF?

Originally posted by IPtkv

Originally posted by AlvisR
X flop. Bet fold turn. Bet fold river would be my play

I agree with xb otf and bet turn if villain checks to us, but otr the worst hand I am betting is 6x max 1/2 pot sizing.

The way hand played out you kinda have to call, I am assuming you are cbeting your whole range 1/3 on this flop so folding seems pretty bad. He is betting there 1/2 pot so you need to be good only around 25% of the time.

Also otr villain is not donking, he is stabbing...big difference

Can you explain why you consider that check flop is better?
What bet size would you use OTT if villains checks to us?
Yep, I have to call here I guess. That was the planing problem I was talking about. I have to improve on it.
Thank you.

Chstall, can you point out some cash streamers? I can only find MTT/STT stuff.

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It's a tricky spot. I think x'ing back and folding the river isn't even that bad. We have 4's and this runout is so bad. You could consider making a small bet on the turn to stop him from bluffing you off with a river probe.