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Dr1fter808
Joined: 11.10.2017

GG Poker - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 102.28 BB
SB: 207 BB
Hero (BB): 110.44 BB
UTG: 143.72 BB
MP: 164.68 BB
CO: 216.32 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has K♠ A♠

UTG raises to 2.52 BB, fold, CO calls 2.52 BB, fold, fold, Hero raises to 15.6 BB, UTG calls 13.08 BB, fold

Flop: (34.12 BB, 2 players) 9♠ 2♠ 9♣
Hero bets 11.96 BB, UTG calls 11.96 BB

Turn: (58.04 BB, 2 players) T♣
Hero bets 82.88 BB and is all-in

The villain is a loose player with +35% vpip.

Thoughts?


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

I would most likely go for 3 streets. Now you over bet shoves as semi bluff and I expect you get only action with better if you do that.

Cheers,
SDK1987


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Dr1fter808
Joined: 11.10.2017

Originally posted by SDK1987
I would most likely go for 3 streets. Now you over bet shoves as semi bluff and I expect you get only action with better if you do that.

Cheers,
SDK1987

So you would fire turn, what are you going to do on a brick river? You said 3 streets.


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jiffybag
Joined: 21.12.2010

The villain is a loose player with +35% vpip.

Might still be ahead of some of V draws. If you bet turn you kinda have to shove on brick river. Shove flop rather?


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Dr1fter808
Joined: 11.10.2017

Originally posted by jiffybag

The villain is a loose player with +35% vpip.

Might still be ahead of some of V draws. If you bet turn you kinda have to shove on brick river. Shove flop rather?

I think this is a value shove on turn. Of course, I probably shouldn't completely remove PP from his range.


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mkBISCUIT
Joined: 19.01.2018

instead of look at villains vpip you should look at his WTSD stat. to me this is very important. if villain is 24 or below they are very blue line orientated and like to fold lots of hands, they don't want to show losing hands. 24-30 is kinda average. you will get looked up sometimes but they are willing to fold. 30 and up gets dicey depending on the amount of hands you have on villain. I still make the mistake of not always look at this and still bluff into recs that like to call down with any pair.

so in your case- villain can be wide preflop and wide through the whole board, he may just not care. if he made a pair and decide that he was calling down. the rest of board doesn't mean anything to them.


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Dr1fter808
Joined: 11.10.2017

Originally posted by mkBISCUIT
instead of look at villains vpip you should look at his WTSD stat. to me this is very important. if villain is 24 or below they are very blue line orientated and like to fold lots of hands, they don't want to show losing hands. 24-30 is kinda average. you will get looked up sometimes but they are willing to fold. 30 and up gets dicey depending on the amount of hands you have on villain. I still make the mistake of not always look at this and still bluff into recs that like to call down with any pair.

so in your case- villain can be wide preflop and wide through the whole board, he may just not care. if he made a pair and decide that he was calling down. the rest of board doesn't mean anything to them.

At GG Poker, all you get is vpip, pfr, steal, 3bet, for stats. And this villain was like 40/35/90/25. You can't use PT4 at GGP. I only import the HH into PT4 after the session for bookkeeping.


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EmiyaKiritsugu
Joined: 13.08.2013

For me against loose opponent its always check/call or check/jam because he will float a lot more low equity hands that he will want to turn into bluff on turn. With As5s I'm always check/shoving to fold AT-AK but AK I think you can play in both ways.


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jiffybag
Joined: 21.12.2010

Originally posted by Dr1fter808

Originally posted by mkBISCUIT
instead of look at villains vpip you should look at his WTSD stat. to me this is very important. if villain is 24 or below they are very blue line orientated and like to fold lots of hands, they don't want to show losing hands. 24-30 is kinda average. you will get looked up sometimes but they are willing to fold. 30 and up gets dicey depending on the amount of hands you have on villain. I still make the mistake of not always look at this and still bluff into recs that like to call down with any pair.

so in your case- villain can be wide preflop and wide through the whole board, he may just not care. if he made a pair and decide that he was calling down. the rest of board doesn't mean anything to them.

At GG Poker, all you get is vpip, pfr, steal, 3bet, for stats. And this villain was like 40/35/90/25. You can't use PT4 at GGP. I only import the HH into PT4 after the session for bookkeeping.

Same with Hem3, I don't know how accurate ggp hud is.


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Dr1fter808
Joined: 11.10.2017

Originally posted by jiffybag

Originally posted by Dr1fter808

Originally posted by mkBISCUIT
instead of look at villains vpip you should look at his WTSD stat. to me this is very important. if villain is 24 or below they are very blue line orientated and like to fold lots of hands, they don't want to show losing hands. 24-30 is kinda average. you will get looked up sometimes but they are willing to fold. 30 and up gets dicey depending on the amount of hands you have on villain. I still make the mistake of not always look at this and still bluff into recs that like to call down with any pair.

so in your case- villain can be wide preflop and wide through the whole board, he may just not care. if he made a pair and decide that he was calling down. the rest of board doesn't mean anything to them.

At GG Poker, all you get is vpip, pfr, steal, 3bet, for stats. And this villain was like 40/35/90/25. You can't use PT4 at GGP. I only import the HH into PT4 after the session for bookkeeping.

Same with Hem3, I don't know how accurate ggp hud is.

In terms of green numbers as to how loose the opponent is, I find it to be pretty accurate. However, be careful about the apparent high 3bet percentage, you’ll find that it’s not a reliable source of information to make your preflop decision on.


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Dr1fter808
Joined: 11.10.2017

Originally posted by SDK1987
I would most likely go for 3 streets. Now you over bet shoves as semi bluff and I expect you get only action with better if you do that.

Cheers,
SDK1987

What is your turn cbet size?


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jiffybag
Joined: 21.12.2010

Originally posted by Dr1fter808

Originally posted by jiffybag

Originally posted by Dr1fter808

Originally posted by mkBISCUIT
instead of look at villains vpip you should look at his WTSD stat. to me this is very important. if villain is 24 or below they are very blue line orientated and like to fold lots of hands, they don't want to show losing hands. 24-30 is kinda average. you will get looked up sometimes but they are willing to fold. 30 and up gets dicey depending on the amount of hands you have on villain. I still make the mistake of not always look at this and still bluff into recs that like to call down with any pair.

so in your case- villain can be wide preflop and wide through the whole board, he may just not care. if he made a pair and decide that he was calling down. the rest of board doesn't mean anything to them.

At GG Poker, all you get is vpip, pfr, steal, 3bet, for stats. And this villain was like 40/35/90/25. You can't use PT4 at GGP. I only import the HH into PT4 after the session for bookkeeping.

Same with Hem3, I don't know how accurate ggp hud is.

In terms of green numbers as to how loose the opponent is, I find it to be pretty accurate. However, be careful about the apparent high 3bet percentage, you’ll find that it’s not a reliable source of information to make your preflop decision on.

Yeah that 3bet is a strange one, I've only played 3 sessions of rush and the 3bet % are very high, 25%+ so I was 4 betting hands that I would 3 bet for value. I got more folds than I did 5 bets. But I still don't trust it.


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