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farbenrausch
Joined: 27.06.2007

PokerStars - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 517 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 25.00, Hands: 17)
SB: 95.6 BB
Hero (BB): 101.4 BB
UTG: 103.2 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 1)
MP: 125.6 BB (VPIP: 23.81, PFR: 19.05, 3Bet Preflop: 25.00, Hands: 22)
CO: 180.4 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 1)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has T♥ T♠

fold, MP raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 9.4 BB, MP calls 6.4 BB

Flop: (19.2 BB, 2 players) 5♣ 2♣ 4♥
Hero checks, MP bets 12 BB, Hero raises to 26 BB, MP calls 14 BB

Turn: (71.2 BB, 2 players) K♣
Hero checks, MP bets 28 BB, fold

MP wins 68.2 BB

Reasonable?


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Titicamara
Joined: 18.05.2009

Why did you raise on the flop?


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Saren113
Joined: 06.03.2009

Would u stack off on the flop if he jams?


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luchoprat
Joined: 02.01.2016

why 3bet preflop?


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MrHappie
Joined: 25.03.2010

I think your line is reasonable, without c/ring the flop you don't really know where you stand in the hand, the turn card is ugly and likely hits Villain's range and it is safe to assume that after calling your 3Bet preflop, calling your c/r on the flop and betting turn, Villain is not folding.


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farbenrausch
Joined: 27.06.2007

Check call on the flop would mean to check fold to any overcard on the turn (j,q,k,a). Check raise gives me best view where I stand. ( in my opinion)


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farbenrausch
Joined: 27.06.2007

3 bet preflop because i dont like to play TT oop passive. Many check folds necessary and low bluff cbet possibilities on the flop.


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farbenrausch
Joined: 27.06.2007

@Saren113 just qq+ i would fold jj here as well if he jams


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

This is too loose 3bet pre. I wouldn't even 3bet JJ here.
If this was a single raised pot it would be a standard check call on the flop and then we could either win at showdown or attempt a bluff.

As played I don't like this check raise. Too expensive way to find out if you are behind, and in case you were ahead villain will rarely put any more money in the pot. I don't like betting or raising just to get info. Often the info is not accurate. Imagine the turn card would have been K♦:, what do you do? Did he call you with JJ or a flush draw?


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farbenrausch
Joined: 27.06.2007

In case of check calling the flop. Would you check call river again with TT as second pair (asume j,q,k or a appears ) or bet/call and if so what to do on the river.


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luchoprat
Joined: 02.01.2016

You know your line is inconsistent.
First you 3bet a hand you dont even need to 3bet
Second you check a flop you'll never be checking with a hand you 3betted unless its because you really have nothing
Third your check raise x2 on the flop? and then not following it with a bet.

Unless his a extreme fish its unlikely that he has a set on that flop, your check raise dont represent a thing so he couldve called that with something like AQ, AJ, etc. and that K on the turn was perfect to bluff you after you check the turn.
In my opinion, you played wrong every single street and the chain in your actions doesnt follow any logical reason


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

I'm not actually sure why I said it would be a standard check call... I think cbetting this would be quite good too?
But if we decided to check call the flop, I would call again OTT even if it was J or Q and probably on K too (preferably no club).
OTR we can't call a third barrel if there is an overcard imo.

Other option would bet to just cbet flop and turn and then depending on board runout and villains possible bet size either xf or xc the river.


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YohanN7
Joined: 15.06.2009

When Reading this thread..., there are many problems of conception, not just the play of the hand.

Leaving all aside, except one thing no-one has touched on. As played, the K is not as bad as you might think. You simply have to expect unpaired overcards to fold if you take the line you take. Otherwise even you would agree that it is worth than useless, wouldn't you?


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

I do not like the preflop 3b too. Too wide.
We can cbet this flop.
As played, the xr is too much.


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DecMate
Joined: 25.01.2009

Just flat preflop.
Agreed with nitrol, what do you expect to achieve by x/r?


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