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AcesUTGFold
Joined: 08.02.2017

Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 6 players

UTG: $42.18 (422 bb)
MP: $6.46 (65 bb)
CO: $10.02 (100 bb)
BU (Hero): $30.31 (303 bb)
SB: $12.44 (124 bb)
BB: $12.13 (121 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BTN with K 8
3 players fold, Hero raises to $0.22, 1 fold, BB 3-bets to $0.58, Hero calls $0.36

Flop: ($1.21) J 7 K (2 players)
BB bets $0.90, Hero calls $0.90

Turn: ($3.01) 5 (2 players)
BB bets $3.01, Hero calls $3.01

River: ($9.03) 3 (2 players)
BB bets $7.64 (all-in), BU (Hero) folds

Hi.
Villain likely Fish.

Preflop: Standard call vs min 3bet

Flop: Standard call flop vs 3/4 bet?

Turn: Do we have a call here since implied odds and river stack him often stacking?

River: Fold see no call here with K8s


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Casey55
Joined: 19.07.2010

What are his tendancies? I would fold this hand to the pot sized bet on the turn, by that point I’m thinking my King is no good and I’m relying on flush to come in but I’m not getting the proper odds to call. V’s range can be all sets, KJ, AA, AK etc.

Its hard to give much insight without knowing the villain, his min-raise could mean strength or spew, he could be betting pot on turn with random Hands. We don’t know his vpip or his playing patterns to make better guesses about his range we can only go off the line of play we see.


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LMcrow
Joined: 15.08.2006

its a bit close on the turn since we need to stack him off most of the time if we hit.
And we can expect the 7 of spades here with some reversed implied odds against his sets.

Also if the river brings the 8 we go broke here ?
its really a close situation in both ways for folding or calling.


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

Seems like a easy fold on the turn. I expect you need to hit to win and if you hit a 8 or K on the river it's likely you are still beat.

Cheers,
SDK1987


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Itsnevereasy
Joined: 08.08.2010

Without additional info, I think it’s a call on the turn and the river. Villain is not supposed to bluff with spades OTR, so having spades unblocks his bluffing range.


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AcesUTGFold
Joined: 08.02.2017

Thank you for your answers.
I also see here more of a fold on the turn after the fact.
Against pot bet and missing outs like K and 8 is the fold.
The opponent will definitely have a strong hand range here the way he plays down.


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EmiyaKiritsugu
Joined: 13.08.2013

I'm also in calldown camp. Recreationals dont slow down on blanks and you have top pair. Not super exciting spot but call river should be ev+.


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