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Very light squeeze, flushdraw on flop vs 60bb stack

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generals007
Joined: 17.09.2007

I elected to squeeze very light because of the amount of dead money. Can I c/r this flop as I did? In hindsight his range hits this board very very well, so I don't know whether I have ANY fold equity. Maybe c/c? That still only leaves 24BB in his stack in a 65BB-ish pot and if the turn doesn't give me the flush I have to fold to a shove on the turn although not that expensive.

PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 58.8 BB
Hero (SB): 105.1 BB
BB: 240.6 BB
UTG: 208.7 BB
MP: 101 BB
CO: 159.6 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 6♣ 7♣

fold, MP raises to 3 BB, CO calls 3 BB, BTN calls 3 BB, Hero raises to 16 BB, fold, fold, fold, BTN calls 13 BB

Flop: (39 BB, 2 players) 9♣ T♣ J♠
Hero checks, BTN bets 18.6 BB, Hero raises to 89.1 BB and is all-in, BTN calls 24.2 BB and is all-in

Turn: (124.6 BB, 2 players) K♠

River: (124.6 BB, 2 players) Q♥

Hero shows 6♣ 7♣ (Straight, King High)
(Pre 40%, Flop 41%, Turn 25%)
BTN shows A♥ J♣ (Straight, Ace High)
(Pre 60%, Flop 59%, Turn 75%)
BTN wins 119 BB


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Tomaloc
Joined: 17.01.2011

the money isn't that dead if the squeezed won't fold...
the main interesting part of this hand is determining how many of your outs are going to be live. i think we can assume something like 35% on average, and so i'm just jamming flop myself with any hand that wants to bet, including this one. villain can have some folding range, like 55, A2s (though we are probably like 60% against those hands, actually)


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Im not a fan of the squeeze id much rather flat pre and go multi way and entice the bb in to the hand as well.Your far less likely to get folds when you have three callers so the chances of getting it though are reduced quite a bit.So when you weigh up the advantages and disadvantages of squeezing 76s oop multi way i think the bad out weighs the good


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generals007
Joined: 17.09.2007

Originally posted by Fvendal
Im not a fan of the squeeze id much rather flat pre and go multi way and entice the bb in to the hand as well.Your far less likely to get folds when you have three callers so the chances of getting it though are reduced quite a bit.So when you weigh up the advantages and disadvantages of squeezing 76s oop multi way i think the bad out weighs the good.

I think that's incorrect. The original raiser was in MP, so his range is solid but not quite as tight as in UTG. The other players didn't 3bet themselves and they're not going to call off their monsters risking a 4 or 5way pot, so their range is capped at something like 99, AJo and QJs. I'm not expecting calls from these players on a 3bet that I made out of position with a corresponding size. Especially not from this 60bb stack. They're not getting the odds if MP folds, especially not with their lower pocket pairs that need high implied odds to continue, which a 60bb stack does not give them. I think MP folding and BU calling is rather an anomaly.

That's also the reason I have such a hard time reading his range on the flop and making a decision here. Which is where my questions are.

If I don't squeeze, I fold preflop. I can't invite BB to squeeze himself, which I definitely can not call out of position for a probably high price.


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Originally posted by generals007

Originally posted by Fvendal
Im not a fan of the squeeze id much rather flat pre and go multi way and entice the bb in to the hand as well.Your far less likely to get folds when you have three callers so the chances of getting it though are reduced quite a bit.So when you weigh up the advantages and disadvantages of squeezing 76s oop multi way i think the bad out weighs the good.

I think that's incorrect.

That's very possible it's just my take on it.


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GridironAssassin
Joined: 19.12.2014

Folding pre seems like the right play preflop. BTN is 60bb deep. Should he call, we are in a tough spot with an SPR that is close to 1.


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zetozinho
Joined: 18.06.2017

I think this was played badly.
I don't like to flat from the SB mw. I also don't like to squeeze this light, because you have absolutely no fold equity when there are already 3 players in the pot.
Flop check/raise makes no sense because you don't take this line with your value hands.


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generals007
Joined: 17.09.2007

Originally posted by GridironAssassin
Folding pre seems like the right play preflop. BTN is 60bb deep. Should he call, we are in a tough spot with an SPR that is close to 1.

You are right that I'm in a bad spot when BTN calls. I just don't think he will do that a lot. What hand would reasonably flat a raise after a caller (instead of raising) and then call a large 3bet?


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generals007
Joined: 17.09.2007

Originally posted by zetozinho
I think this was played badly.
I don't like to flat from the SB mw. I also don't like to squeeze this light, because you have absolutely no fold equity when there are already 3 players in the pot.
Flop check/raise makes no sense because you don't take this line with your value hands.

I agree I should not flat preflop. I'll be oop and might not get value even if I do hit.
I think I do have fold equity. The players after the original raiser should almost always get out of the way if original raiser doesn't call. You're right that this is probably too light.
You're right; the c/r makes no sense. Do you have an idea what you'd do on this flop once you are in this situation?


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