4bpot deep vs potdonk

Shame that you are so deep here. I would give up here but I should note I am a bit on the nittier side of things. Yes the SPR is low, but I personally do not like the concept of THE SPR so much in MW pots. In HU I think it is spot on, but here, you have 2 opponents which have only invested 37bb but who can now pick their spots very well and now you pretty much have pretty much an all in donkshove (I mean there is no way the money is not getting in) by an unknown. Also you could argue there are 2 different SPRs in this situation. Against the SB you have effectively 235BB behind. That is a lot. 37bb invested, 235 behind. Even if you just go by SPR you would have around 235/148 = 1.6. Requires BE-Equity of: 38%. I really doubt you have 38% here vs imo a very strong range. I think there are about 0 bluffs in his range. Also it is unknown what CO will do. If he calls he will add another 90bb into the pot with an unknown holding, but this is completely uncertain and I believe right now the focus should lie with the play vs the other big stack. Personally these spots are the reason why I do not enjoy playing PLO this deep, but I guess if you are good at it it could be a very profitable game. So perhaps it is too nitty, but I would fold perhaps CO calls and hopefully get a glimpse at his donking range here. GL

Originally posted by FlyingDutchm1n
I think there are about 0 bluffs in his range.

You don't think KKTx, KKJx two spades can donk shove considering it is the most likely move to get AAxx to fold? If he is aware that a 4-bet range is likely AAxx then he is crushed on the flop; KK two spades and a potential straight has some decent equity against non spade AAxx.

I would fold here though, I don't think the KsKxXsXx bluff is likely enough to happen. AAss will be freerolling and likely be the only hand your getting odds to call against.

Fold.

Everyone has invested 49bb preflop. The thing is that SB pots against 2 people in a situation where he really doesn't have a lot of FE. And even if you have the equity to call against his semibluffs, CO has some kind of wrap quite often here and you would be fighting only for the side pot.

It is possible to give them ranges that justify your shove, but that would be pretty optimistic imo. If they are given realistic ranges, just fold it and thank SB that he saved your money.