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Tim64
Joined: 03.11.2008

Party, $0.10/$0.25 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 4 Players
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SB: $38.39 (153.6 bb)
BB: $31.49 (126 bb)
CO: $35.98 (143.9 bb)
Hero (BTN): $38.43 (153.7 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with K♠: 4♦: K♥: 9♦:
CO folds, Hero raises to $0.85, SB folds, BB calls $0.60

Flop: ($1.80) J♠: 8♣: Q♥: (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

Villain is a reg. Is there any point cbetting such boards?


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Padelbro
Joined: 21.01.2010

Yes there is, as this is a board you will hit quite well BTN vs his wide BB defending range (as he is a reg) and it's difficult for villain to continue witouth a strong hand.

With this hand it's interesting what you should do though. You've mid-strenght hand with op+gutter and blockers with KK9 for certain runouts. I think I like cb better.


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FlyingDutchm1n
Joined: 21.08.2012

Originally posted by SeagalSteven
I think I like cb better.

Ok so what do you do now when you get called? You think you can get 3 streets of value with KK? Do you Cbet turn again? What about river? I know it is villain dependent but some weird unreadable 2 pairs must surely come into play. I think personally I might double Cbet and check behind river IP when given the opportunity if the runout isn't particularly favorable.

Would like to hear your opinion!


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Padelbro
Joined: 21.01.2010

Originally posted by FlyingDutchm1n

Originally posted by SeagalSteven
I think I like cb better.

Ok so what do you do now when you get called? You think you can get 3 streets of value with KK? Do you Cbet turn again? What about river? I know it is villain dependent but some weird unreadable 2 pairs must surely come into play. I think personally I might double Cbet and check behind river IP when given the opportunity if the runout isn't particularly favorable.

Would like to hear your opinion!

I meant CB = checkback :) I don't think you can get 1 street of value with KK this board, betting would be for denying some equity / villain taking iniative / turning our hand to bluff later streets. With checkback it can be hard to defend as we won't have T9, but now we have hand we can call at least once and evaluate river which is why I like checkback more.

If you cbet then OTT it's up to you do you want to go all the with a big bluff as your opponent is capped (if he wont raise turn bet), or take free card and realize your equity and see what villain does OTR. I dont think 2 bets makes a lot of sense, I'd go with either just 1 or then all 3 barrels if the board is unchanged and we think villain is able to fold 2prs / sets to 3-barrel bluff.


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Tim64
Joined: 03.11.2008

I also thought cb was cbet

I like x/b as played. I think cbet Kk on this flop is basically already a bluff rather than a value bet.

And maybe we have some better hands to bluff with/or at least hands we don't care about bet folding


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ZakYoun270
Joined: 10.12.2015

No, there is no point in betting here.


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plopfessional
Joined: 21.09.2016

Xback is ovious imo. Mainly because you do not fear any cards. Boardpairs make it more unlikely villain had a set otf
and you can bluff catch. T is nuts. K is great bluffcatcher/draw. A and 9 are very good bluffing cards. and the rest of the deck does not change the situation.
Also a cbet never folds out a better hand or a lot of equity as most worse hands also have a good draw and will continue.
Though unlikely, but our hand will also hate to get bluffraised, as we definitely have to bet/fold.


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