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ronekinky
Joined: 25.04.2008

I almost checkshoved turn but if he has the A he is not folding anyway. Secondbarrelling turn didnt feel right either, Ax or FD calls too often.

PokerStars - €9+€1|5000/10000 Ante 1000 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: 205,490 (VPIP: 15.33, PFR: 13.18, 3Bet Preflop: 8.40, Hands: 261)
UTG: 349,002 (VPIP: 24.49, PFR: 6.25, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 49)
UTG+1: 201,971 (VPIP: 8.70, PFR: 4.55, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 23)
MP: 61,520
MP+1: 151,024 (VPIP: 13.04, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 23)
CO: 529,496 (VPIP: 31.25, PFR: 26.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 16)
BTN: 134,062 (VPIP: 13.33, PFR: 6.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 15)
Hero (SB): 338,594

8 players post ante of 1,000, Hero posts SB 5,000, BB posts BB 10,000

Pre Flop: (pot: 23,000) Hero has 7♣ 8♣

fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 26,355, BB calls 16,355

Flop: (60,710, 2 players) 2♣ A♣ 9♦
Hero bets 23,065, BB calls 23,065

Turn: (106,840, 2 players) 6♥
Hero checks, BB bets 32,125, Hero calls 32,125

River: (171,090, 2 players) J♥
Hero checks, BB checks


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

Just out of curiosity, how far from the money are you -- or are you already ITM?

What do you think of x/r on the flop?
If you did, what would you do if villain shoved to your x/r?

Just sayin,
VS


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ronekinky
Joined: 25.04.2008

Not in the money yet. But it was pretty close to the bubble.

Checkraise feels a bit too buttonclicky for me /my style. I dont usually do that. I would not play Ax or set like that.

If i did checkraise i would have to call his shove.. (i think)


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

Yeah, in this case the pot isn't so big, but sometimes a check OTF gets you:
:diamond:  A free card when villain checks behind -- nice for flush draws
:diamond:  A chance to check/raise that will get you either a fold to a reraise if necessary
:diamond:  A chance to fold outright saving a bundle of chips.

I'm curious to see what others think.

To sum it up:
It's tough to play speculative hands OOP near the bubble :f_cry:

Cheers,
VS


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onetwo78
Joined: 06.07.2010

I think there is no A in his range.
I would cb on the flop, ch/rai turn


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onetwo78
Joined: 06.07.2010

sry, he would check back the turn a lot with pair or K high, that's why I prefer the bet/bet/bet line


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julito23
Joined: 24.08.2011

I also vote for the bet/bet/bet line. As played, I would definitely raise/call OTT.


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s0cru3l
Joined: 03.03.2011

and what about bet flop, c/shove turn?
this turn bet looks to me, that villain wants to get cheap SD...might be inducing also...but its like 20bb efs pre right? so I would exclude his Ax combos


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onetwo78
Joined: 06.07.2010

he has too less A in his range (he would shove them pre), that's why he will check back too wide range on the turn


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Asaban
Joined: 22.09.2006

Perfect spot for bet flop, c/shove turn imo.
You have a strong draw and decent fold equity.
If he calls your equity is still alright.

If you don't like c/raising on the turn go with bet/bet/bet.

c/raising on the flop seems kinda weird. Doesn't make a lot of sense in that situation. What kind of story are we trying to tell? Looks very much like the hand that we actually have.

Regards,
Asaban


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My line would also be c/rai, since he leaves himself folding room and your line often seems like AJ+
Weaker players should be happy to b/f their A5 type and 9x hands
If you c/c turn you need to bet river (or put him all-in) if you hit your hand, since he would check back too many marginal hands and often also his air.


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