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adasko99
Joined: 13.02.2011

UTG+1 looks normal with vpip 23 pfr 11, he is not in a stealing position, his range is gonna be pretty strong right? so what to do with ATs and 15bbs in this spot? :f_ugly:

PokerStars - 500/1000 Ante 125 NL (8 max) - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: 8,494
BB: 7,297
UTG: 12,534
UTG+1: 25,891
MP: 13,838
Hero (MP+1): 15,416
CO: 34,787
BTN: 21,835

8 players post ante of 125, SB posts SB 500, BB posts BB 1,000

Pre Flop: (pot: 2,500) Hero has T♠ A♠

fold, UTG+1 raises to 2,000, fold, Hero ?


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NoNameHypo
Joined: 28.04.2023

In the tournaments every position is a "stealing position" :f_biggrin:. But for 23/11 this will not be the case.

I prefer fold...Kinda borderline. No, not really. You don't have good FE, the hand is not so impressive..I mean, vs tight range it just sucks. If you are on SB, will be better, but still not so happy shove, I guess on SB will be borderline..Still I don't like it. With AQo and AJs it's OK, but with ATs, AJo, KQs, I don't really like it. You can think about call, but in this position will be fold...
Ugly spot, hard to fold...


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adasko99
Joined: 13.02.2011

Thanks, yeah it seems close-ish, would you agree with the range I gave him in this sim? (12.7%)


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NoNameHypo
Joined: 28.04.2023

Glad to see HRC.. I agree with the range, you can put some Axs as well..You can change the range for 4bet over shove. If you have time. And desire :f_biggrin:...
KQs have impressive performance..I didn't expect that. I think if we change the range for over call, will be different. And adding some A9s, A8s in his range for raise - call..ATs will be better. Should be...You still can call with KQs, I think..You can fold, call or shove...
Maybe I am wrong about this..Still I don't like Kx hands. Because the people over shove more..Mainly because of this..In the reality Kx is not good. Not so good. Also Axs...I argued a lot for this. With pro players. They do not agree..
This HRC is amazing soft. If you have time and motivation, this soft can give you unique knowledge..Which most of the regs don't have..
But the pros they do like slightly -EV moves. This is questionable..And if you like slightly -EV moves, sometime you will make a mistake. Because of this style of play. Sometime your shove will be "clearly" -EV. You play at many tables, not so much time to think. I am a nit, I guess. But why this should be bad!? :f_biggrin:
Some pro will shove here with ATs, you should know that..Collin Moshman will shove for sure.

I mean depends on your style..In theory you should not take even the borderline shoves. Because you are better than the field. In the reality you should take even slighly -EV shoves...For better $/hour...Depends on your BRM, how many tables you play, do you play as "hobby", semi-pro or pro...


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