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w34z3l
Joined: 03.08.2009

Hey guys,

Pretty simple auto-profit hand in this example. We discussed the genearal concept in the latest Academy live coaching. Essentially if our opponent checks back the flop at lower limits we have a profitable 2 barrel on turn and river in the majority of cases.

$0.02/$0.05Zoom No Limit Holdem
PokerStars6 Players

Stacks:
UTG ($7.73) 155bb
UTG+1 ($8.09) 162bb
CO ($2.86) 57bb
BTN ($6.84) 137bb
SB Hero ($5.02) 100bb
BB ($11.99) 240bb
Pre-Flop: (0.07, 6 players) Hero is SB 7♦ J♦

3 folds, BTN raises to $0.15, Hero raises to $0.48, 1 fold, BTN calls $0.33

Flop: 8♥ 2♥ 3♠ ($1.01, 2 players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn: 4♠ ($1.01, 2)
Hero bets $0.54, BTN calls $0.54

River: 9♣ ($2.09, 2)
Hero bets $1.44, BTN folds

Final Pot: $3.53
Hero wins $3.44 (net +$0.98)
BTN lost $1.02

Preflop - Seems fine imo, but probably slightly outside a standard range from the SB.

Flop - We totally miss the flop here and I don't see any reason to get involved with fancy-play-syndrome at these limits. The plan is to check fold.

Turn - Turn is a blank and this is where we decide to spring to life. This is likely not a correct bet in theory since we don't really have much potential. Even if we had something as weak as a gutshot it could easily end up being a correct bet, but with 7♦ J♦ it's probably correct to check/fold.

However we aren't too concerned with what is correct in theory. Let's consider our opponents flop range for a minute. It's really not that likely he has any over-pair otherwise he'd frequently bet vs our missed cbet at these limits. It's not overly likely he has any pair since he'd probably bet for protection assuming we mostly have overcards. This means our opponent likely does not hold any pair and his most likely holding is simply two overcards to the board.

It should not be difficult to get our opponent to fold two overcards by the river. He may float us once on the turn but can't call twice. He may also have picked up a flush draw on the turn or checked back a flush-draw on the flop. Again he can only call once with these hands, but not twice unless he hits.

River - We stick with our plan and decide to 2-barrel. Obviously no bluff works with 100% frequency but this should work frequently enough that we generate automatic profit. It seems a reasonable river card also. It doesn't connect with his overcards but is still an overcard to the board which may give us a little additional fold-equity if he did decide to check back with something like 55 on the flop.


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jules97
Joined: 10.06.2012

I'll add a tip that in general, this will work better on dry flops than wet flops (but it will still work on wet flops).

To counter this, it's fun to have a super aggressive raising ranges (on turn and river) against aggressive turn probers. I often cop abuse saying I shouldn't have raising ranges there! :coolface:


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w34z3l
Joined: 03.08.2009

Yeah, the counter strategy is to check back some hands which can use to raise the turn super aggressively against aggro probers. Most guys are missing out on so many probes at the lower limit so it doesn't always have great success as a default strategy. We should however have a default raise-vs-probe range at any limit.


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7♦J♦ is Pokemon cards :f_thumbsup:


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