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tommygecko
Joined: 11.08.2012

Originally posted by darkritual24
I just wanna thanks everyone for all the help, i've took all your suggestions into consideration and now make minimal wage ( 10$ an hour ) at the lowest stake playing zoom poker .

It's pretty good considering i'm playing at the 0.01$/0.02$ table.

how many tables do you play at the same time?


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4 zoom tables at once which is like 24 normal tables.


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I'm not gonna lie tho, the first day i started playing zoom i made 100$.

The next day, i lost 85$, my bankroll is now 15$ and I'm scared to play cause if i lose it, it's game over.

But the thing is, at NL2 being scared isn't an option.

Here's an example of what I'm talking about :

Hero (2.06$) BB
Fish (0.90$) UTG2

Hero : A :diamond:, J :heart:

Preflop : UTG1 raise to 0.04$ , Fish calls, Fold, Fold, Fold, Hero raise to 0.08$. Everyone calls

Pots: 0.25$
Board : 2 :diamond:, J :diamond: , Q :heart:
Flop : Hero bets 0.14$, everyone calls.

Pots: 0.67$
Board : 2 :diamond:, J :diamond: , Q :spade:, 6 :heart:
Turn : Hero checks, UTG1 checks, Fish bets 0.06$. Everyone calls

Pots: 0.85$
Board : 2 :diamond:, J :diamond: , Q :spade:, 6 :heart:, 3 :heart:
River : Hero checks, UTG1 checks, Fish bets 0.28$. I call after thinking about it for 20 seconds, UTG1 folds

Hero : A :diamond:, J :heart:
Fish : 2 :spade:, 8 :club:

Hero wins 1.41$

Ridiculous, i thought he had at least a pair of Queen


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This session went really well, i started with 1$ and left with 3.17$.

I think i figured out why I've won so much on day 1.

The main reason is i wasn't careless, i would limp in with rag J,Q,K,A or suited connectors and would steal the pot whenever the big blind checked and i missed the flop.

I did exactly the same thing today and won 2.17$.

I may be unto something here.. Oh well, i'm done for today and gonna try winning one of those 0.02$ hyper turbo tournament.

I was so close to winning one yesterday but went all-in (100k pot) with A , K preflop vs someone with A , 2:d. He got lucky and i finished rank 26


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tommygecko
Joined: 11.08.2012

Do you know why I asked how many tables you play? Because at 0.01/0.02, to sustain $10/hour in the long run is impossible unless you are absolutely crushing other players and play like 10 zoom tables at once.

You can't say 'Oh today I won $100 in 10 hours so I can make $10/hour at these stakes'.

You might just be lucky in that 10 hours you played (which was true in your case, your luck went away immediately the next day, even though you played the same way)

At 0.01/0.02 anything around ~$2-$3/hour is pretty decent for 4 zoom tables.

And in the first hand, why did you raise from 0.04 to 0.08? It is never a good idea to raise so small. In your case you should raise to 0.20. You don't want to give others good odds. You give them bad odds so that they pay more than what they are supposed to just to see a flop. And when you really have a strong hand (top pair top kicker or better) it is easier to get money from your opponents. Just ask yourself, if your opponent bets 1.00 into a 4.00 pot, maybe you will call with only top pair. However, if your opponent bets 1.00 into a 0.10 pot, will it be such an easy call?


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in the first hand, why did you raise from 0.04 to 0.08? It is never a good idea to raise so small. In your case you should raise to 0.20.

Mainly because AJo is one of those crappy hands you never make money with.

Also, i don't know if you've noticed but, whenever you bet too much preflop playing Zoom, everybody folds. Or, someone calls, you miss the flop completely or there's a better pair on the flop.

Then, the guy bets big and now you have to choose between folding and losing 1/5 of your stack or going and losing 100%.

Either way, you can lose 100% of your stack on this hand or miss the flop 5 times and achieve the same result.

That's why i pussy bet, because i can always try stealing the pot if i miss the flop. If i succeed, i make decent money and if i don't, i don't lose as much.

And finally, if i pussy bet and someone calls, he's more likely to fold when i try stealing the pot because, he didn't bet too much and most likely has a weaker hand than someone calling a 0.20$ bet.


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