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MYTHBUSTING THE MICROS! Coaching thread

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SuperChompa
Joined: 26.07.2016

Also a counter example

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888 Poker - $0.05 NL (6 max) FAST - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 105 BB (VPIP: 42.86, PFR: 28.57, 3Bet Preflop: 20.00, Hands: 7)
Hero (SB): 126.4 BB
BB: 40 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 20)
UTG: 122.8 BB (VPIP: 15.00, PFR: 10.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 20)
MP: 105.2 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)
CO: 67.8 BB (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 12)

Hero posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has 7♥ A♥

fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to 2.2 BB, Hero raises to 8.6 BB, fold, BTN calls 6.4 BB

Flop: (18.2 BB, 2 players) 3♠ 9♥ 2♠
Hero bets 10 BB, BTN calls 10 BB

Turn: (38.2 BB, 2 players) 5♣
Hero bets 28.6 BB, BTN calls 28.6 BB

River: (95.4 BB, 2 players) 6♦
Hero checks, BTN checks

Hero shows 7♥ A♥ (High Card, Ace)
(Pre 32%, Flop 19%, Turn 16%)
BTN shows T♦ T♣ (One Pair, Tens)
(Pre 68%, Flop 81%, Turn 84%)
BTN wins 89.8 BB

When he called me I thought ... what do you think you beat here with your TT :f_o: and actually it tilted me a bit


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LemOn36
Joined: 07.02.2009

Cool
Also guys, today we will mix up the format
We will briefly outline the Belief that ABC Is the only way to go at micros and why it makes sense to hold it.
And then jump straight into hands and onto the tables while we'll try to come up with ideas that point to it being actually a myth.

And then at the end of the coaching we'll use those ideas, from you, to complete the mythbusting presentation for the pleasure of recording viewers.
So make sure you don't miss out, it's going to be a fun one!


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gxtwo
Joined: 15.12.2010

Prima, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $14.60 (146 bb)
BB: $5.30 (53 bb)
UTG: $14.43 (144.3 bb)
MP: $10.15 (101.5 bb)
CO: $16.83 (168.3 bb)
Hero (BTN): $17.95 (179.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with A♦: J♥:
UTG folds, MP raises to $0.30, CO folds, Hero calls $0.30, 2 folds

Flop: ($0.75) 8♦: K♦: T♣: (2 players)
MP bets $0.35, Hero calls $0.35

Turn: ($1.45) A♠: (2 players)
MP bets $1.45, Hero calls $1.45

River: ($4.35) 5♦: (2 players)
MP bets $2.15, Hero raises to $15.85 and is all-in, MP folds

Results:

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$8.65 pot ($0.30 rake)
Final Board: 8♦: K♦: T♣: A♠: 5♦:
MP mucked and lost (-$4.25 net)
Hero mucked A♦: J♥: and won $8.35 ($4.10 net)

General thought process here is MP can have a lot of better hands like 2p and sets that he bet/ folds the river. I think we will be beat a good % of the time when we call. we have nut flush blocker along with straight blocker.


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LemOn36
Joined: 07.02.2009

Hi guys!
Tomorrow we will put the belief that Modern microstakes are hard to impossible to beat to the test!
Expect a lot of graphs, Pokerstrategy bankroll challenge stories, and general tips that will help you turn that belief into a myth for yourself!

Most of all I also want to HEAR YOUR STORIES and opinions.
So make sure you either join us in the chat on Tuesday, or tell us by posting here how you have been progressing at Microstakes, how hard you find it and if you throw in a longer term graph or two we won't mind either ;)


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

See? Totally unbeatable.
But I will begin winning. Believe me. I will be winning so much you have never seen anyone win that much. I have the best strategy. It is the best strategy you have ever seen. Believe me. But sometimes poker is stupid.
I'm strong. My opponents are weak. Some of them are fine people. But they are weak. Total losers. Together we will build a better strategy vs these losers. We should send all of them to China. Believe me.


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LemOn36
Joined: 07.02.2009

haha A+
today will be great boys and girls
You will see big winners and BR Challenge finishers, great stories from Pokerstrategy
- I'm already stealing their Ideas for you
And you will see some of my biggest pots from Microstakes from last 1.5years!


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Mauslord
Joined: 06.09.2011

:f_eek:


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TakingAShot
Joined: 29.05.2017

Is this series finished or what? I posted a couple of comments under the videos themselves but I wanted to say it here, as well: This is the best micros material out there, period. Like, you will instantly begin understanding the game on a higher level and making better decisions as soon as you watch one video in this series. The fact that they're all 1-2+ hours long is also just unrivaled in the industry. Nobody else is bringing players up through the micros like this today.

I've been watching poker videos for three years and have gotten more out of this series in three days than everything I've watched/studied in the 3 years prior. Dead truth.


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TakingAShot
Joined: 29.05.2017

Winning Poker Network (Yatahay) - $0.02 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $2.88 (VPIP: 15.79, PFR: 11.84, 3Bet Preflop: 1.85, Hands: 155)
SB: $2.01 (VPIP: 14.00, PFR: 10.00, 3Bet Preflop: 6.67, Hands: 52)
BB: $2.78 (VPIP: 20.53, PFR: 15.51, 3Bet Preflop: 2.08, Hands: 431)
UTG: $2.55 (VPIP: 54.55, PFR: 4.55, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 94)
MP: $2.00 (VPIP: 56.25, PFR: 42.19, 3Bet Preflop: 16.33, Hands: 136)
Hero (CO): $3.13

SB posts SB $0.01, BB posts BB $0.02

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.03) Hero has A♥ J♥

UTG calls $0.02, fold, Hero raises to $0.08, fold, fold, fold, UTG calls $0.06

Flop: ($0.19, 2 players) T♦ K♣ 2♣
UTG checks, Hero bets $0.10, UTG calls $0.10

Turn: ($0.39, 2 players) 5♥
UTG checks, Hero bets $0.24, UTG calls $0.24

River: ($0.87, 2 players) Q♠
UTG bets $0.83, Hero raises to $2.71 and is all-in, UTG calls $1.30 and is all-in

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UTG shows Q♣ K♦ (Two Pair, Kings and Queens)
(Pre 38%, Flop 78%, Turn 86%)
Hero shows A♥ J♥ (Straight, Ace High)
(Pre 62%, Flop 22%, Turn 14%)
Hero wins $4.88
Rake paid $0.17

$0.08 was deducted from the pot for the jackpot.


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LemOn36
Joined: 07.02.2009

Thank you for the feedback! The series is indeed over now :)
Well it more belongs to the guys that put their skin out there of course as they made this series along with the chat, I was just there for the ride. The longer runtime was purely caused by the great stories and great chat and was not the intention at all

Really nicely played there, I think a lot of NL2 regs would check as "nothing worse folds" and "we don't get value" but you should be able to fold out limper's 33-99 by the turn easily, even Tx sometimes actually, he doesn't have hands like AK when he limps, we get value out of QJ and flush draws. can hit your ace and jack and had the backup to the nuts that lets you win a huge pot.


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TakingAShot
Joined: 29.05.2017

Originally posted by LemOn36
Thank you for the feedback! The series is indeed over now :)
Well it more belongs to the guys that put their skin out there of course as they made this series along with the chat, I was just there for the ride. The longer runtime was purely caused by the great stories and great chat and was not the intention at all

Really nicely played there, I think a lot of NL2 regs would check as "nothing worse folds" and "we don't get value" but you should be able to fold out limper's 33-99 by the turn easily, even Tx sometimes actually, he doesn't have hands like AK when he limps, we get value out of QJ and flush draws. can hit your ace and jack and had the backup to the nuts that lets you win a huge pot.

Thanks for the reply and the feedback on the hand. I do appreciate it. I've had 3 profitable sessions in a row since just yesterday and my graph is starting to look much nicer. I'm beginning your "Chasing The Draw" series now and studying HH's alongside it. Later tonight - back to more volume. I'll be around and tuning into whatever you produce next.


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TakingAShot
Joined: 29.05.2017

Originally posted by TakingAShot

Originally posted by LemOn36
Thank you for the feedback! The series is indeed over now :)
Well it more belongs to the guys that put their skin out there of course as they made this series along with the chat, I was just there for the ride. The longer runtime was purely caused by the great stories and great chat and was not the intention at all

Really nicely played there, I think a lot of NL2 regs would check as "nothing worse folds" and "we don't get value" but you should be able to fold out limper's 33-99 by the turn easily, even Tx sometimes actually, he doesn't have hands like AK when he limps, we get value out of QJ and flush draws. can hit your ace and jack and had the backup to the nuts that lets you win a huge pot.

Thanks for the reply and the feedback on the hand. I do appreciate it. I've had 3 profitable sessions in a row since just yesterday and my graph is starting to look much nicer. I'm beginning your "Chasing The Draw" series now and studying HH's alongside it. Later tonight - back to more volume. I'll be around and tuning into whatever you produce next.

So, yesterday I played the longest session I have ever. About 2,500 hands over a 10 hour period. Between the material and study here, as well as taking the aggression crash course on another site, I opened up just attacking everyone, playing like 35/28/17, which is just absolutely crazy LAG for me. Early in the session, I got the money in pre with KK over JJ and did not hold up as the J came down on the flop. After that, I pushed the envelope (minor "get it back tilt from the KK hand) and GII with AKo a couple of times and lost two flips. Then, I had trips 8's against a total whale who limp called pre and showed up with a rivered set of queens in the end. I was down 6 BI's at one point and was getting crushed but I could see that a lot of it was just standard variance, and I was confident I'd be be making plenty of money if I just kept putting in the volume.

Long story short: I got every penny back and finished the session with a slight profit after rake back. It was insane. I went on a run where in about 30 minutes I made 7 BI's. Just clearing out multiple tables @ WPN 2NL. At this point I had tightened my ranges back up to like 25/20/13, playing extremely aggressively and almost entirely IP.

I'm on part two of the Chasing The Draw series (strong draws) and part one is hugely responsible for me extracting value and winning big pots now. I had 300+ bb's on multiple tables when I finally sat out and I've never, ever racked up stacks like that on that network before. I can't wait to dig into the rest of the series.

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