Flat calling 4bet with AA ip.

If villain 4bet bluffs a lot a flat call in position with AA is decent. Off course you get also in some nasty spots post-flop when you need to fold AA sometimes and if that's tough for you a 5bet for value pre-flop is most likely better.

Cheers,
SDK1987

In zoom games, when i do 5bet with AA, i am getting fold at least 8 times out of 10. Its frustrating.

Thats why i think about to start flat call them instead. Sure you will get sometimes in nasty flops, but what you think ? Could we not make more money by just flat calling IP and letting then to do their C-bet, instead of 5betting and winning the small pot. We will extract more money in the long by just flat calling IP with AA, i quess ? What you think ?

1 Good example - You flat call with AA instead of 5betting, flop comes K52, villian holding AK. Boom, you stack off and make more money in the long run, instead of 5betting and getting nothing but only small pot.
Now think. There is tons of hand they will fold to a 5bet, but will stack off while hitting their TPTK, or they almost like have to C-bet after their 4bet being OOP, so more money in anyway.

What you think ? I mean, could this possible make you more money in the long run ? I theory i quess it will, but will it for real ?
The amount of money you will win after they fold to your 5bet will not gonna be quite big, but after they gonna stack off their TPTK or just gonna c-bet bunch of crap hands will generate more money than you would get while they fold to your 5bet, i quess.

I dont know, have not tried out yet. I know that i can make money with with both options.
I just wanna know line will make you more money in the long run ? Just to improve winrate and maximize profits. Who would not like to

Just a thought -- do you have a tight image?
If you 4Bet only AA, KK you'll get more than your fair share of folds.
Why not start by splitting your AA Range?
 If you have A♠:A♥:; A♠:A♣: or A♠:A♦: raise normally and flat a 3Bet
 If you have A♥:A♦: or A♥:A♣: raise normally and 4Bet/Shove
 If you have A♦:A♣: limp/call
 If you have A♠:A♠: take a screen shot and contact support

Just an idea...All the best,
VS

I dont think limp-calling AA is ever good. Also flatting 3bets seems not good as well.
When someone 3bets, i do always try 4bet/shove with AA.
I do 4bet bluffs aswell, from time to time.
Problem is, that i still get fold to a 5bet almost like always.
Should i start i widen my 5bet range to get called more.
I mean, i have done and do extremely rarely 5bet-bluff, but not that enough that it would widen my 5bet range too much from optimal.
So, do you think one should wide his 5bet range that one could get more shoves for value ?
Do you think that widen 5bet range, and continuing always 5bet with AA-s will make more profit in long run, than flat calling 4bets with AA in position ?

As I mentioned, if you only ever 4-Bet AA, KK or QQ, you'll never get action.
Somewhere, somehow, you need to 4Bet bluff -- and get caught doing it.