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alloman
Joined: 24.11.2007

PokerStars Hand #79080144897: Tournament #548806760, $193.85+$6.15 USD Hold'em No Limit - Match Round I, Level IV (25/50) - 2012/04/18 16:16:54 ET
Table '548806760 1' 2-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: faarcyde (1120 in chips)
Seat 2: alloman (1880 in chips)
alloman: posts small blind 25
faarcyde: posts big blind 50
HOLE CARDS
Dealt to alloman [3c 3s]
alloman: raises 50 to 100
faarcyde: calls 50
FLOP [Ad 8c Kd]
faarcyde: checks
alloman: bets 88
faarcyde: calls 88
TURN [Ad 8c Kd] [3h]
faarcyde: checks
alloman: bets 200
faarcyde: calls 200
RIVER [Ad 8c Kd 3h] [9d]
faarcyde: checks
alloman: bets 400
faarcyde: calls 400
SHOW DOWN
alloman: shows [3c 3s] (three of a kind, Threes)
faarcyde: mucks hand
alloman collected 1576 from pot
SUMMARY
Total pot 1576 | Rake 0
Board [Ad 8c Kd 3h 9d]
Seat 1: faarcyde (big blind) mucked [Jd 8s]
Seat 2: alloman (button) (small blind) showed [3c 3s] and won (1576) with three of a kind, Threes

i was wounder if because i trash talk him made him do that

but how +ev is this call

also this hand show a lot about what he think i play

what u think faarcyde and wasy

no offence faarcyde i just post to understand ur point of view and i m pretty sur some reader want to undestand also


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Based on your bet sizing I would think your value range is strong Ax or better. No A7-, no Kx. So not that big.
The rest is how he sees you, and tells.


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wasy8
Joined: 29.01.2009

Hello,

Based on what I know of alloman I think he is definitely capable of having all aces in his range here as well as anything better obv. I'm not sure how willing you are to 3barrel complete air here esp. if you've been trash talking him.

I can't see calling river vs you being +EV here though, would love to hear faarcyde's thoughts though. I would guess that he thinks you are not capable of valuebetting all that thin on this river and that this is a pretty awesome board to triple barrel bluff vs thinking opponents.


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I didn't think you would be value betting thinly but in retrospect it looks like I have a strongish hand so with your bet size you couldn't realistically expect me to fold anything. You were bet bet betting a lot so I don't think it's terrible to show I can hero call but in a vacuum I would say it is definitely minus EV.


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alloman
Joined: 24.11.2007

ty to both _cool:


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