13.50$ KO 66 preflop spot, facing min open by 14bb stack

Originally posted by Lindberg789

Readless. In a turbo I would snap fold, as it would be a trap, cause normally u just open shove this stack

imo this is not true at all

@hand
i like to flat here with those stack sizes and see what happens...call SB sqz or evaluate turn in position vs villain

U don't agree that with 14bb before accounting for ante (M about 5) u don't play push fold unless u are trapping?
U can't have a r/f range in these spots, it would be like bleeding chips?

Originally posted by Lindberg789
#1 U don't agree that with 14bb before accounting for ante (M about 5) u don't play push fold unless u are trapping?
#2 U can't have a r/f range in these spots, it would be like bleeding chips?

#1 yes i don't agree
#2 no u aren't bleeding chips

Hmm. I have trouble understanding how to can do anything but play push/fold and not be in a world of hurt, unless u trapping.
Ur reasoning for having a r/f range is due to the fact that people don't expect u to have it, therefor u can do it profitable, cuz they won't play back at u?

I would really like to hear other people thoughts about this, Cuz I really can't understand it. Maybe I'm just to used to be playing turbos that I'm missing value by doing push/fold to much?

Originally posted by Lindberg789
Hmm. I have trouble understanding how to can do anything but play push/fold
Ur reasoning for having a r/f range is due to the fact that people don't expect u to have it, therefor u can do it profitable, cuz they won't play back at u?

this

i mostly play turbos and i do same in turbos too, mixing opening(r/f or r/c) with shoving

Hi all,

I don't expect enough r/fs here without specific reads so I'd fold. Having a r/f range with 14bb from that position doesn't seem good at all, you simply fail to realise your equity in the hand too often in my opinion. Maybe it was back in 2005