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Originally posted by yoshiwa
1.
maybe first a general remark. I find AF to be a really bad stat , since it converges really slow , and surely a thing like river AF is not reliable the first 100 hands or smth
I really rather use agg freq
ch behind flop much better i think , you have free equity , since hes that passive you will see many rivers if flop is checked , you even can call al little turnbet.
I think a part of the hand misses tough , coz i guess your real question was on the river

2.
wp , fish never folds FH here , esp once he raises, he just had air

3.

wp then. Obv dont have to tell you once you start this plan you have to have the ballz to stab 3 times:)

4.
i call , you have position , so you always have more information then he does.
You get enermous odds to call , and like you say , he often show up here having either 9x , overpair or nutfd , in all of those cases you arent too happy getting it in.
You get the odds to call , see a Turn , and decide there. Point is since you are in postion , and you have the odds to call , a call is better , since he will always be exploited for being OOP , coz whatever turn card hits he is kindof obliged to get his stack in , while you can fold if u miss and he bets to big

5.
phoooeee river is really like fml my kicker sucks. I think its a fold tbh , you are either calling for the split , losing , you only win from missed draws (you dont put in his range coz of reads) and 77-88

6.
mhhh risky business:P Id call , just coz he has less bare 6x then FH

1. crap.. he shovd R on a club and i folded
4. agreed, if i knew he was bluffy with ch/r my line would be fine imo
5. yyeah youre prob right, he wouldnt play 4x this way and 77/88 prob neither on R that sizing
6. disagree, much more 6x combo's and hes like allways raising them on the r. Like 46 86 96 K6 A6 and some suited 6x. imo this is kind of an easy raise fold

you forgot these

Yup

2 hands vs agro station, AF 3,2
VPIP 80 80, 3bet 22% fold to 3b 0 to 4b 0
oR 77

he allways oR 4bb, so easy 3b
On F i decide to induce him saw him make moves vs weakness before. Bet ip 100% 4x

Friday 1.

IPoker, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 2 Players
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SB: $90.60 (45.3 bb)
Hero (BB): $327.90 (164 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J J
SB raises to $8, Hero raises to $24, SB calls $16

Flop: ($48) A 9 9 (2 players)
Hero checks, SB bets $24, Hero calls $24

Turn: ($96) T (2 players)
Hero checks, SB bets $42.60 and is all-in, Hero calls $42.60

River: ($181.20) K (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Friday hand 2
same guy. Donkbet 40%. So do i raise or let him bluf? Gues i might raise as well since hell prob wont fold a lot. Think folding is way too weak?

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BB: $189.90 (95 bb)
Hero (SB): $225.80 (112.9 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K A
Hero raises to $6, BB raises to $18, Hero raises to $53, BB calls $35

Flop: ($106) 2 2 J (2 players)
BB bets $53, Hero calls $53

Turn: ($212) Q (2 players)
BB bets $83.90 and is all-in, Hero calls $83.90

River: ($379.80) 3 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

friday hand 3.
hes also ch/r 20%..

IPoker, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 2 Players
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BB: $183.20 (91.6 bb)
Hero (SB): $234.30 (117.2 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K 5
Hero raises to $6, BB calls $4

Flop: ($12) 3 2 K (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $9, BB raises to $39, Hero calls $30

Turn: ($90) 9 (2 players)
BB bets $45, Hero calls $45

River: ($180) 3 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

friday 4

70/70 vpip oR 70, 33b 20, fold to 3b/4b 0 huge station postflop

R was like ong fuuuuu, but maybe he slowplayed KK/spiked the Q and felt good about is...

IPoker, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 2 Players
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SB: $356.30 (178.2 bb)
Hero (BB): $491.27 (245.6 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A A
SB raises to $6, Hero raises to $20, SB calls $14

Flop: ($40) 7 4 2 (2 players)
Hero bets $30, SB calls $30

Turn: ($100) T (2 players)
Hero bets $72, SB calls $72

River: ($244) Q (2 players)
Hero bets $164, SB raises to $234.30 and is all-in, Hero calls $70.30

Originally posted by yoshiwa
19.

nice fold indeed
these potraises are just too often what they rep

20.

good plan for the hand indeed , hell not blufraise a bare A here , but will call it often
River could get ugly if he calls , becoz you only have a botsized bet behind. ch-call sucks and misses value , and bet-fold sucks aswell , but i guess would be the best solution then?

21.

easy game , he often will have overs but you still have nice equity , but also 78 79s overs+fd/fd might do this so yeh , easy game:)

22.
yup true
what is you riverplan? since this guy seems aggro , i think id go for ch-c , since K will surely bet , and so will all his blufs once you bet flop ch T ch R

23.
reason for not cbetting flop? Not that many draws out there , J as highcard and its not like you have that much equity when you ch b?
riverbet can be nice , but you have to make sure hes not easily induced , or else its a terrible bet

24.

maybe std , but i have a question. What if the river bricks (offsuit 2 for example) ?
I'd consider ch-calling then tbh

20.yeah has to be bet fold then, like 1/2 pot
22.
bit to enthousiastic again with deleting results (and part of the hand ) dont know what i did but thought i betted and got called by worse Kx since he was stationish/passive
23. still same passive station who would call any 1 overcard and did OOPbet much, maybe i shouldnt oR this hand
24. think a very small bet/fold vs this passive station might be best to still see him call some weak 2d/3d pair

Originally posted by yoshiwa
25.

think its okay , maybe making it 68 , it still has the 6 in front so its about the same percieved betsize

26.

Well , it doesn't sound like a solid plan too , esp 200bb deep.
Vs some villains this is ok , but you have to know they wont barrel to much , or have a very high stabbing freq , then you could ch-r broke when 100 bb deep ( not 200bb)
I guess there is nothing wrong with just ch-folding this , since ull have to play the whole hand oop with very little information

27.

For this one , for me , it depends on the meta. Vs some ppl this is an easy tyforthemaniez call , vs others im already considering a fold on the T. Can't really judge:) Only thing i can say his range is polarised Havnig this dry of a flop i'd be more leaning toward fold

25. agreed, 68 seems like the same
26. yup, again think it sucks
27. yeah on T he repped allready better then my hand, maybe i could fold vs this guy, but i did wanna make kindoff sure i wasnt getting bluffed since he would stab 3x imo, so R is a easy fold and mayb even T

Originally posted by yoshiwa
28.

should have hitted the powerbutton on my laptop

yes terrible 4bet . I only 4b 99 when metagame dictates it , or when im tilting coz i played too long and want to win fast;) Vs unknowns ill never 4b 99.
calling flop==folding turn indeed:)

29.

oh great , so you weren't just tiltspewing on 1 table , you were 2tabling , nice koen:D
i scnd the fact this guy is at best a marginal play when you are fresh to play , and on 1 table , otherwise its really an easy quit
i was going to say 'i call' becoz he only reps a Jx , but then i saw his 3b% and well , the point is , you don't beat that many hands of his 3b range on this board , its kindoff hard for him to have 'air' , only with some AQ or smth , so yeh fold then

30.

flopcbet depens on what he is calling vs a 3bet imo
wp i guess , i considered ch-shoving the turn for a moment but its quite terrible vs this guy (altough i dont have his callvs3bet range )

31.

phoooeee
Don't think id call this he can have straights , 2P , sets. Only hand i see him playing like this is Ax , but a player with a general af of 1.4 with a donking range of 10% has you beat here anytime i think:)

32.

didn't you consider a ch-c? I don't see that many hands calling beating you beat tbh he can easily have a 9 , but you havent got any idea which , bdflush comes , and hell bet 67 aswell i guess too , betting just sucks so hard imo coz his calling range is really narrow , and he can raise you with lesser hands (9x) but also with better , so you're just playing a guessing game...

point is , you describe him as tilted , while i really see a weakpassive fish when i look at his stats , so maybe 31/32 are just biased judgings coz i don't have the meta:)

33.
nh

34.
or lower sets its close , but its a call i think

35.
wp , i see atleast 1 other hand where you ch-r the turn very light , so if hes paying abit attention at all hell be very inclined to call , with whatever draw/pair/... because he knows you are attacking him and it makes the hand very easy

36.

or 9T for the openender? or 76 /87/... this is a much easier fold imo

37.
it's indeed hard to decide here what would be good betsize. Your best guess to get value from is Ax i guess , and yeh i think when you went already bet bet , 1/2 is more then enough , coz otherwise youll scare. If you made a bluff recently , or vill is very herocallhappy , a potbet might work aswell since then he could be like: ooh noughty boy , missed fd , missed straightdraw , im not folding my Ax , call

30. its 68% of 45%
31. really? straights? sets? 2pairs? .... ehmm, wouldnt those barrel the T? he only repped like 55 to me which is 1 combo.. rest he is bluffing some pair+draw combo which missed or just some random air (which he did have)
32. yeah thought he was very tilted atm but ch/c is better yeah, let him spew and his calling range isnt that wide.
33. terrible hand, he had 36o
36. ahh yeah 9T mm missed that double belly youre right, and even without that i still think its a fold
37. agreed

Originally posted by yoshiwa

Originally posted by cowboykoen
s1.
3bet to 7bb/8bb depending on reads
if you did so you could shove this R, as played i would bet F 8 to get less floats, bet T more and R ai, as played F bet T 18 and R about 40 and you can still fold vs this passive dude, as played T bet fold R like 30 or yeah somt like this
BTW if u do bet this smalish do bet/fold and dont level yourself hes way to passive to even be induced by this, he wont bluf SDv for sure. But im sure he has like Qx 90% of the time so just make it 30.

s2.
oR 3bb? hes way stationish oop or is it just vs 2bb oR every hand?
cbet F 6-7$, as played T bigger too
as played ye can shove R, he will most likely only call J8 JT maybe some J7s and maybe some stupid Ah9x calls
But that are at least 18 combo's while the J9 99 78 are 17 combos, so its close but you can do it and prob his 78 combos will be less since hell only call the ones with hearts in it twice i guess.
But as i said its really close, a check isnt that bad either if you think he's pretty tight on R and might fold crappy J's like J7/J8

s3.
Yeah stnd untill R, there im wondering if he has Jx cus he reps it that well, but KK (and like KQ) as well and maybe youre reads also tell you he might play a weak Ax this way.. But against some villian who do not underrep hands and play very face up you can call this R imo. Oh see his cbet stats now, yeah guess this guy is not to bad to call on the R only not if you saw him vbet TP(WK/MK) like this as well, if he bets that bigger i would call.

s4.
youll have to be right 30% of the time on winning, and 60% for splitting. I do expect his T bet to be bigger with a flush though, but he also might want to have calls from 2p or he's just allways sizing small seen last hand before as well. You do super inducively bet the R, this looks like 2pair A LOT. So he might wanna go for it to bluff you of or he might vbet a J, but it would be stupid cuz hell scare of anything worse then a J. Since he does have AF 2,2, he has a ch/r F % and you induce and rep so weak, i would call in the past all day long. But nowadays i would prob say fold, to be right 60% of the time to split is quite a lot and if you say he didnt blufraise before (on inducing bets too i presume) he'll have the Jx or better like most of the time and youll just lose money. But if he does raise small donkbets dont donk, just ch/c So i presume he didnt do that at all so yeah, long story short, well played

s5.
does he float QJ OOP? i would be suprised if he did so cus not many do, or you must cbet like crazy and ch T alot and F on R. For you thats exploitable too by just ch T with sdV.
but yeah if he is stupid enough to do so just bet, but if he onlu ch/c sdV and FD, and also slowplays just ch the T. He isnt folding much on this T seeing his stats and knowing his kind, he probably wont fold a PP on the T, maybe more then normal cuz of youre sizing but prob not quite often enough to make it profitable, and if he also slowplays its even worse imo. R play bet fold is fine imo. He can also herocall Tx on this sizing some times.

s6.
think u posted the wrong hand or its just youre most fishiest handpost ever ♠_biggrin:

s1:
agreed to 7/8bb, he has a pretty nitty OR and never folded to 3b
overall i think betsizing , on every street is my biggest leak (not when i have time , then i see it , but while playing i dont seem to think enough/have enough time)

s2: betsize wrong on flop again
and vs a 30bb stack im not opening 3bb , then my open range becomes way to tight (you really cant open 70% of hands when you commit 10% of your stack in an oR)

s4:
yeh , point was really by integrating the info i had i couln't assume he would raise Jx here pot often enough to call

s5:
70% calling range , and 45% fold to cbet , so his range for calling vs cbets is still huge

s6:
mhhh , well , i adapted the hand to be K8s ♦ but somehow it failed:) so yeh , i was just wondering if i could call river if i had K8

6. dont level youreself into saying he's tilted after he lost 1 hand before, how can you know that he could have picked up a good hand, if he 3bets like 3hands straight you can say it
but seeing his stats, yeah its a call, he could easily have some weaker pair or just nothing

k8 (the real one):
snapcall imo
he could easily have air stabbing after you ch twice. U rep 8/7/99/TT/22-66 +some draws , so he has an easy bluf on the river , esp when he is this aggro

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