[Closed] Full Tilt Poker De-Tracks all PokerStrategy.com Players

Originally posted by Targetme
I might get flamed pretty hard for this but this is definitely good for the poker ecosystem. There is a bubble that has to burst, Pokerstrategy pumped in too many average/rakeback regs (I used to be one of them) as less rec players deposited and the ratio just got too high. Starting at 0% rb is definitely a good thing and will discourage people from giving poker a serious shot and attract a better ratio. Lower rakeback will kill off a few of the weaker ones which would greatly help the strong pros that make a higher % then they rake. It may seem like a hard reality but I cant see this as anything but a good thing for the future. That being said I love pokerstrategy and this is a bit of a scummy thing that fulltilt did to them but they have no play so its kind of coming off as whining. We are playing a selfish game so its not like they can influence many players. There is little they can do to improve there market share but its understandable that they try. I hope this is not the nail in the coffin Ive noticed a steep decline in the english community.

I totally agree. I'm f*cking tired of see random pokerstrategy admins who rarely post crying here.

Ban and suspend me if you want for this, as thankful I am for pokerstrategy letting me use their $50 program back than they are going to far now. Pokerstrategy lost a part of its revenue, think other ways to earn revenue back instead of crying. I'm actually happy to see pokerstrategy not promoting full tilt anymore, those regs pokerstrategy brings never deposit anyway, it just increases the fish/reg ratio.

This move is excellent for the poker ecosystem. Think I'm even going to thank full tilt for removing all affiliates.

I've just been through this thread and I've got a point to make about Pokerstrategy.com:

While I am very grateful for everything PS has provided me with it feels to me PS is overly defensive about this issue. Yeah so FTP cut ties with their affiliates in a move that was probably pre-meditated a long time before stars bought FTP. I'm sure they even owe u money. But it feels to me the way u've come out fighting this fight is just a bit too desperate.
For example, continously mentioning the fact that rake will be based on the weighted contributed method and how that's a big change compared to the old FTP ... well everyone else changed to this method, would FTP under it's old stewardship not also have done this?
Or the fact that FTP is (supposedly) discriminating against winning players (I'd like to state here that I'm not arguing that does not happen) ... winning players and those at the top of the pile are there for a reason. They found their own ways of getting there and invested (incredible amounts of) their own effort into achieving what they have achieved in poker. While the content available on PS is of a high standard, the truly important lessons to becoming a top poker player will never be learned here. I'm very sure these players will winners even if PS would be forced to close their doors, because the best winners will always find ways to adapt.

I understand PS wants to defend it's own interests and also the interests of their players which is only fair and understandable. However I also believe this could have been done in a more prudent way, without attempting what almost feels like, a witch hunt.

To some of u complaining over this issue: first u were upset u lost ur money and wanted to get it back. Then u were sceptical about only getting part of ur money back wanting to get it all back. Now u got ur money back but this issue with affiliates is bothering u ... I seriously don't know what will make some of u happy ... there is a point where u simply have to count ur blessings and be happy u got as much as u did out of a deal, realizing it's probably as good as it will get and move on.

Very good points above. To those of you who're upset about not being tracked to PS, don't. It's not really you who lose on this, its the affiliates themselves.

One question.
We earned strategy points because of the paid rake. Bla, bla, bla.
Now - no rake, no points.

What if we could make PS points based on SideKick?
It certainly can be done. There is some good things about it.
For example, some players might get to NL50, NL100 forums, etc.

On a side note. There will be nothing for me on PS in the near future.
Let's say in a time I start playing NL50. I would still have to pay $19 to
post hands and I'll probably do it, because risk/reward would be great.
BUT! I'm not gonna pay more.

That means one PS for me will be just - news, private coaching adds, blogs.
That's it.

I guess NL100 forum could still be OK, but the question is if I should pay like $89 for status.

Originally posted by Anger86
One question.
We earned strategy points because of the paid rake. Bla, bla, bla.
Now - no rake, no points.

What if we could make PS points based on SideKick?
It certainly can be done. There is some good things about it.
For example, some players might get to NL50, NL100 forums, etc.

On a side note. There will be nothing for me on PS in the near future.
Let's say in a time I start playing NL50. I would still have to pay $19 to
post hands and I'll probably do it, because risk/reward would be great.
BUT! I'm not gonna pay more.

That means one PS for me will be just - news, private coaching adds, blogs.
That's it.

I guess NL100 forum could still be OK, but the question is if I should pay like $89 for status.

And how will PS benefit from this? They won't get any income, meaning they won't have any funds to create new material so in the end you will get nothing from the PS points earned.

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