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Ridiculous, ffs 
Pls beat this stake for the sake of other upcomming micro grinders. Now I am rly scared. 
Originally posted by DrDunne
wow that's pretty crazy. must be really frustrating
i've shot for nl25 4 times so far. i guess i have no hope of moving up out of nl10 ♦
easy solution:
Originally posted by getdotacom
quitting and returning to much softer nl400 games.
I suddenly don't feel as bad struggling with nl20/25!
Originally posted by getdotacom
OK, last thing I will try - I will play like a complete nit. I will open very tight range from all positions besides button and will call opens only with something like AQ+,88+,JTs+ :DDD Also I will bluff only by cbetting, I won't try any tricky bluffs and I will valuebet for pot when I have it.
This. You will print $$$$. Good luck.
JB
Looks like it's pretty bad run. I hit my set only 8% of the time and my winrates from different positions are weird (sample size issue). I play nl25 sh on pokerstars.fr, maybe it's harder because of rake. Really doubt on regular stars 12bb/100 is normal rake at that limit. Btw, do u know anyone playing nl25 on that site with decent wr ? Or some other site with similar rake ? Also looks like I can't play that limit properly because buyin is a couple of bbs in my default stakes, so it feels like I'm playing a freeroll. I hope I won't have to play these stakes for living some day.
Originally posted by getdotacom
OK, last thing I will try - I will play like a complete nit. I will open very tight range from all positions besides button and will call opens only with something like AQ+,88+,JTs+ :DDD Also I will bluff only by cbetting, I won't try any tricky bluffs and I will valuebet for pot when I have it.
It must take like a gazillion tabels to keep your attention of you're playing that way
Originally posted by getdotacom
Looks like it's pretty bad run. I hit my set only 8% of the time and my winrates from different positions are weird (sample size issue). I play nl25 sh on pokerstars.fr, maybe it's harder because of rake. Really doubt on regular stars 12bb/100 is normal rake at that limit. Btw, do u know anyone playing nl25 on that site with decent wr ? Or some other site with similar rake ? Also looks like I can't play that limit properly because buyin is a couple of bbs in my default stakes, so it feels like I'm playing a freeroll. I hope I won't have to play these stakes for living some day.
I used to play on a site that had even worse rake. The key is just to table select better (you can't afford playing without the fish and sometimes even one fish might not be enough unless the regs are extremly bad). Also you need to think more about the rake in terms of how it affects your preflop and postflop play some slightly +Ev moves might become -EV simply due to rake.
Nitting it up might be a solid idea.
Things are not getting any better, still I suck @nl25. Unfortunately I decided to end this challenge
Just can't handle nl25,no idea what's going on there. I always somehow call with worse hands and fold the best hands against some donks. Their play just makes no sense and I'm not patient enough to wait for AA to stack them. I will deposit some money there and try nl200/400 and see what happens. Maybe it's just some weird play style people play on this site in any limit.
so you don't beat NL25 and you will suddenly beat NL200 ? maybe it's a better ideea to get a coach not to lose alot more money at NL200
Originally posted by ThePirateSword
so you don't beat NL25 and you will suddenly beat NL200 ? maybe it's a better ideea to get a coach not to lose alot more money at NL200
You look really stupid now ♦
Go take a look at the first post in this blog.
It should be, most likely it is. But I just can't handread in that limit at all and I have no idea what's going on there. It could be some pretty bad run as well, no idea. I've had 30-40bi downswings over very small sample size, I hope that's the case. I rather have very bad run @nl25 than @nl400 
yeah but they pay so light and some of them are so bad agro , i think you are not logical in moves , i can't have other explanation
I have tryed to play nl25 sh with stats 10-8. Dont have large sample but it worked for me. ~5k hands +2BI without any risk playing only premium and pp.
Not sure if its even possible to beat sh with these stats, just saying my experience vs these drunked french
That's why I'm done measuring my success by results, I'm grinding hard, jumping from site to site for first bonus (maximize my rakeback), studying the game hard and just focus on the quality of my game. I don't care if end up a looser at NL50 but with a bankroll big enough for nl100 (thanks to rb), if I feel confident in my game I will just take the shot. That used to be a problem and kept me back. Done with that.
