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nl200, set in 3b pot

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ciachooooo
Joined: 02.01.2010

$1/$2 No Limit Holdem
6 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ciachooooo ($200) 100bb
UTG+1 Player6 ($111.21) 56bb
CO Player1 ($249.62) 125bb
BTN Player2 ($487.79) 244bb
SB Player3 ($301.70) 151bb
BB Player4 ($240.27) 120bb

Pre-Flop: ($3, 6 players) ciachooooo is UTG J♥ J♠
ciachooooo raises to $6, 4 folds, Player4 raises to $22, ciachooooo calls $16

Flop: 10:club: 7♣ J♦ ($45, 2 players)
Player4 bets $19, $19 to ciachooooo ($178)?

9,1% total 3b,
16% 3b on bb
5% 3b vs open from UTG
his cb in 3b pots by street: 76/48/50
fold cb to raise on flop is 31%, too small sample for turn b/f in 3b pots

I open 13% utg, fold to 45% 3bets there, total fold to 3b 60%, my raise cb in 3b pots is 18%

what are your thoughts here? given positions I don't expect him to ship like AK here to tiny flop raise, so calling seems better, or maybe not?


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mbml
Joined: 27.11.2008

Hi

Not sure what to make of his small bet size. He probably cbets with his AQ/KQ/AK gutshots. I think given that the board is so coordinated, you still need to raise this flop.

If it were JT6 then I would consider the option of calling. But I think the wetness of the Flop outweighs the need to slowplay. He will shutdown on so many cards, like J/T/8/9, maybe clubs too.

I would just make it 42, to appear bluffy, and hopefully he just ships something over.

Thanks.


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x3mwisp
Joined: 31.03.2009

The way i c it all flush draws have pair or gs to go with so he'll stack off. overpairs will hapily get it in here. Any norm reg wouldn't barrel such flop twice mb even not once. Raise and call.


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ciachooooo
Joined: 02.01.2010

ok, so as you agree with flop tiny raise, let's take a look on turn

$1/$2 No Limit Holdem
6 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ciachooooo ($200) 100bb
UTG+1 Player6 ($111.21) 56bb
CO Player1 ($249.62) 125bb
BTN Player2 ($487.79) 244bb
SB Player3 ($301.70) 151bb
BB Player4 ($240.27) 120bb

Pre-Flop: ($3, 6 players) ciachooooo is UTG J♥ J♠
ciachooooo raises to $6, 4 folds, Player4 raises to $22, ciachooooo calls $16

Flop: 10:club: 7♣ J♦ ($45, 2 players)
Player4 bets $19, ciachooooo raises to $45, Player4 calls $26

Turn: 9♦ ($135, 2 players)
Player4 checks, ciachooooo ($133)?

i don't expect him to have any T... do you
a) ship
b) bet like 38
c) check
and why?

checking/beting small might induce, i don't expect we need to protect our hand much, but on the other hand it's potsize ship...


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mbml
Joined: 27.11.2008

Option b is my favourite. Just bet 1/4-1/3 pot and call it off. I really doubt he has KQ too often, and I don't expect him to have 8X too often as well.

Checking is not good, I expect him to be on a draw really often, and half the deck kills our hand even further.

Shoving isolates us vs straights and allows him to fold his AK/AQ very comfortably. No room for him to make any mistakes.


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x3mwisp
Joined: 31.03.2009

I also go for b) My guess is he had KQ or 88 with 8:c :)


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