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agonyship
Joined: 17.01.2009

so you think Pokerstars is carefully overwatched in Italy, Spain and France, where it's legalised?! But there are still people saying it's rigged.


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janushr
Joined: 29.08.2008

furtehr more,i want to add,if you know that right odds,how many times people win in todays online games,i will tell you,its about 5%..yeh...5%...go check out on net how many winners were last year :f_biggrin:

so,when you have 20 to 1,and you get to steal from those 1 to give 20,how that could be heard in forums??as there is only 5% winners in the game,it isnt that much,right??so,all people trolling and attacing those threads,are just fishes whom get lucky now,but in long run you wont be here...

as stars cant steal from fishes,what will happens,they will sink faster and lose even more players???that is the reason,IMO,you hear about some lunatic speaking how online poker is rigged,LOL :f_biggrin:

and i get also an answer from STARS support,how EVERY HAND(even AA vs 27o)have EQUAL chances for winning,as that is determined by RNG,not HAND STRENGHT or SKILL ...as every hand have equal chances to be outdrawn...so,if i have 82% and You cut that to 50%(JUST ROuGH ESTIMATE),HOW IS THAT A GAME OF SKILLS???


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janushr
Joined: 29.08.2008

did you play at .FR,.IT or somewhere else?'i didnt,so i cant judge that,as there should be still some time to implement all those..yes,the thing changed,but not as much,we ll see in coming years what will happens...and i know that on .FR there is just NLH and PLO,not mixed games,stud and others,so perhapse they have a diff game??tbh,i already contacted their support about to go play there and i can on .FR,not .IT...so,perhapse i will give a try,ang go to check it out and repost it back here :f_cool:


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janushr
Joined: 29.08.2008

and also,ofc,in 95% losers,it is easiest way to blame the RNG for your failure...so,this isnt working for me,as i am a WINNING player,and i was talking more about GAME INTEGRITY,RNG TESTS,FAIR GAME and that i am for TESTS whom can prove something,and that its obligated to have it and publish it daily at net,WHY NOT??you dont want to be able to see such thing and be SURE that all is FAIR???i would certainly stand for it always to happens...

but,yes,ofc,there is false online poker is rigged threads a lot with people who doesnt know even to play well,its also true...


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janushr
Joined: 29.08.2008

i also STRONGLY belive thats the only way to attract NEW PLAYERS,by providing SAFE ENVIROMENT where you know all is legit and correct,who wants to play in enviroment where you are uncertain??i know also players whom quit the game cause of that(they were sick of it getting suckouted all the time)and they were BIG WINNERS(ie..guy was leading the sharkscoope up to 5$ and more the 7 tables play leaderboard 2012)and he quit back to his daily job,as ofc,he wouldnt put that shit to happens so much...i am in simmilar case...anyone saying thats its untrue,i or my friend would kick anybody butt here,including coaches whom posted here,so we could have a determination or we are the FISH or is it something else??

always for the challenge :f_cool:


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Rihard4a
Joined: 08.09.2010

Well if you cannot handle the pressure of the almighty RNG just move to live games where it doesn't affect your luck so much as online?

The world ain't all sunshine and rainbows. <c>


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jbpatzer
Joined: 23.11.2009

Originally posted by Rihard4a
Well if you cannot handle the pressure of the almighty RNG just move to live games where it doesn't affect your luck so much as online?

The world ain't all sunshine and rainbows. <c>

In my experience, live is even more rigged than online. Just look at their RNG.


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Rihard4a
Joined: 08.09.2010

Originally posted by jbpatzer

Originally posted by Rihard4a
Well if you cannot handle the pressure of the almighty RNG just move to live games where it doesn't affect your luck so much as online?

The world ain't all sunshine and rainbows. <c>

In my experience, live is even more rigged than online. Just look at their RNG.

Agreed. :coolface:


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janushr
Joined: 29.08.2008

Originally posted by Rihard4a
Well if you cannot handle the pressure of the almighty RNG just move to live games where it doesn't affect your luck so much as online?

The world ain't all sunshine and rainbows. <c>

if you reefer to me,i come from croatia,and there isnt so much poker here live tbh...if i would live at states or europe somwhere,i would perhapse go and play live and enjoy more...actually i do have some plans to try that out anyway,we ll see...rome wasnt build in a day;)

and i like LIVE RNG more(just womens :f_biggrin:),so even if i get outdrawn,i would prolly take it lots more easier...

joke aside,i dont see anything improper with my request,i belive its in ALL players favor to have FAIR AND SAFE GAME...AND TO HAVE SOME PROOF OF IT(what ever it may be on daily basis)...do you like PARTY attempts more where you dont know anything and they do what ever they like???i belive players have RIGHTS as well,and poker rooms are just SERVICE...all buissness make thier buissness clean and open ,so that all is correct and visiable,right??


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Vygantas82
Joined: 02.04.2010

janushr do you still pay attention to that troll? guy can't beat nl10 in 2 years but acts here like some uber kick ass pro


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UPAY4DINNER
Joined: 28.09.2009

Ok, after sleeping on it, I will re-open this thread.

However, if there trolling/flaming continues I will have no choice but to close it permanently.

This is my final warning.

Gary


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UPAY4DINNER
Joined: 28.09.2009

Bump


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Originally posted by HollyMichelle
Ok, after sleeping on it, I will re-open this thread.

However, if there trolling/flaming continues I will have no choice but to close it permanently.

This is my final warning.

Gary

Thank you Gary, you are truly a super Moderator.

I got a few more things to say so it would be great if this thread could run a little bit longer, so please restrain yourself. If you guys want to fight I will gladly open another thread for you.

These couple of days I'll be tinkering with my PT4 to collect some more data to back up or disprove my 'feeling'. I will post it here regardless.

Until then, peace.

EDIT: I'm mainly talking about the hands with which I didn't go to showdown, which I didn't mention so far. For example: how often do I flop a pair, a set, how often do I get a flush after I flop a flush draw and similar. As well as some set-up examples to check if I'm playing it right.


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Rihard4a
Joined: 08.09.2010

Originally posted by Vygantas82
janushr do you still pay attention to that troll? guy can't beat nl10 in 2 years but acts here like some uber kick ass pro

Playing since August 2012. I have account here for 2 years because my friend wanted me to start playing poker with him back then, I played couple freerolls on fulltilt and quit.

EDIT: This is my last post here, so don't worry Vlad.


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w34z3l
Joined: 03.08.2009

Originally posted by HollyMichelle
Ok, after sleeping on it, I will re-open this thread.

Wow, you could have at least left that semisonic tune in here.


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UPAY4DINNER
Joined: 28.09.2009

Originally posted by w34z3l

Originally posted by HollyMichelle
Ok, after sleeping on it, I will re-open this thread.

Wow, you could have at least left that semisonic tune in here.

What are you listening to? :)


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w34z3l
Joined: 03.08.2009

I love that tune. Brought back some memories.


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janushr
Joined: 29.08.2008

THANKS,HOLLY MICHELLE...i also dont look to flame or troll anything,i am for open disscussion,as i also regard at least some of your opinions and respect it...and i am interested what smarter people think...

rihard4,if you really play since august 2012,i do that a way longer,i personnally dont have anthing against nobody,i am always for open discusion,but please,add some constructional...i dont say that my S... is constructional,at least i try to elaborate and gave my wiew on some thing...you are also free to add some what you find worthy...


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janushr
Joined: 29.08.2008

one spot for a bit of music:))for w34z3l...


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Great start of the month:

Spoiler

Which is 48 BIs under along with 88 Set-Ups against me and 45 in my favor.
Which is total ~76 BIs under.

So, so tired...


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