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NL100 JJ 3bet pot

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duder1n0
Joined: 07.07.2009

Prima, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players

CO: $126.88 (126.9 bb)
BTN: $102 (102 bb)
Hero (SB): $100 (100 bb)
BB: $100 (100 bb)
MP: $131.11 (131.1 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J J
MP folds, CO raises to $3, BTN folds, Hero raises to $10, BB folds, CO calls $7

Flop: ($21) T 3 5 (2 players)
Hero bets $10, CO calls $10

Turn: ($41) J (2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks

River: ($41) A (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $19, Hero calls $19

CO

River? I didnt really know what to do, I'm not sure if he could bluff like that, but I showed weakness by checking twice, and I have a set, so I called...


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PF good
Flop bet = good but why so small on such a drawy board? I'm betting like $13 at least here but not sure what amount is best.
Turn good (x/c)
River, we still can't vbet imo. He checked turn so has SD value like 7h7x or TJs, 9Ts. He could have some Ah traps because he think you are check/folding a lot of the time.

So I think we need to check/Fold river. If he has sd value (what he's repping with his turncheck) he would check again. I think that if he has pure air like 89 or sth he's betting turn. I don't even see a lot of air because all broadways hit.. His sizing also looks valueish. We can only call if he'd bluff with QsTs or TJs or something but I don't think so actually. Many players will just check it down


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imfromsweden007
Joined: 11.10.2008

Hi,

Pre actually seems kinda thin, I really don't enjoy life when he 4bets us, so doesn't seem to be too great value in 3betting. I don't really mind it that much, but I think it's close.

Flop seems standard, could perhaps go slightly bigger.

Turn I would bet again (as a bluff), I think he has a lot of PPs with a heart once he calls flop, and I think those will have a very hard time calling the turn, since it seems unlikely we'd run a complete bluff there. Basiclly I expect anything worse than a Q-high flush to fold on the turn, and we have some outs if we're called, so I prefer betting to check/calling.

River... call if you think he's capable of turning like Tx or low PPs without a heart into a bluff, fold otherwise I guess.

ifs


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ifs, what sizing is best on the flop?

And PF, isn't it fine to have 100% 3bet or fold strategy in sb? And obv JJ Goes in the 3bets.

I like your idea of betting turn as a semi bluff because we also prevent from getting bluffed. I only fear that he's calling ones with 7h7x etc


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imfromsweden007
Joined: 11.10.2008

12-13 seems standard.

Views differ if it's fine or not to have a 3bet or fold strategy from the SB, even among good players. I am a firm believer that it is very bad to only 3bet or fold from SB, especially these days when BTN minraises a lot of hands.

I'm not especially worried about getting called by 77, I think he's hating life with Qx of hearts even.

ifs


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