cheekopeh

Originally posted by BogdanPS

Originally posted by cheekopeh

Hi Coach, I understand.

I hope I get this right, basically you mean if I am going to 3-bet for value, many times I do need to shove over a 4-bet if not I would be much better off just flatting.

I think this line is good for opp whom I have information and stats and ready to play for stacks w AK. Vs unknowns especially at early positions, I think it's better to just flat since I do not know how often he reacts to a 3-bet and how often he 4-bets (and a "standard" player probably just 4-bet QQ+/AK which I'm in bad shape).

Hi,

When you 3-bet a hand for value you have to always ask yourself two questions:

A) What worse calls me
B) Can enough worse hands 4-bet/call or 4-bet/fold?

There are situations where only A has to be true for us to be able to 3-bet for value. For example if we have a guy that calls all broadways and PPs but only 4-bets KK/AA then we can even 3-bet QQ/AK and fold them to a 4-bet. And they would be a 3-bet for value versus their calling range.

Hi Bogdan,

I understand. I would say then that in summary, we 3-bet either for value or for bluffing. And to decide if we even 3-bet at all, we really do need specific reads and stats on that player's play vs 3-bet and also the 4-bet stat.

I have been thinking about 3-betting range for value/bluff & just a calling range vs different opponents & different positions. I have a headache now, because it's so opponent & read dependent. Whilst I think it's an important subject, I think there are other areas which will do me better to focus on like postflop play (position w initiative) & hand-reading at NL2/NL5.

Hopefully, I can re-visit this topic when I've become a better player! Thanks Coach!

Originally posted by BogdanPS

Originally posted by cheekopeh
Question 1: Post a hand for evaluation in which you have the initiative postflop. (Post your hand in the Hand evaluation board, and provide a link to your hand in your private thread.)

NL5 Speed 22s Isolation

Question 2: Evaluate one of the hands submitted by other members. (Choose a hand from the Hand evaluation board and post your own evaluation in the thread. Post a link to the hand you have evaluated in your private thread. You can evaluate as many hands as you want, but try to choose hands not yet evaluated by other users.)

NL10 ZOOM 6max Tough spot

Question 3: You are on the flop with K :spade:Q :diamond:. The board cards are J :spade:, 9 :club:, 8 :heart:, and your opponent holds 7 :club:7 :heart:. What is your equity in this spot?

Once again, trying w/o Equilab first. A Ten here gives us the better straight, so essentially we have 6 outs against our opp's 77s. I think our equity here isn't too bad, probably 38%?

Upon checking Equilab, it is actually 41.41%.

I guess watching all those poker videos w the equities on all their hands helped!

Homework 4 done!

Well done,

Homework 4 complete.

Great to see that you able to estimate the equity of the KQ hand without the need of equilab. Would you be able to do the same while playing in under 15 seconds?

If not it's time to practice some more

Hi Bogdan,

Yea I encountered a hand like this before while I was playing and was curious so I went to check up Equilab. Including another hand where I have AKs and had TPTK + NFD vs a Set on the flop. It's hands like that which get me curious and to check my equity.

And I definitely cannot do it within 15s. So yep, back to the practice board for me ♦

QUESTION:

Hi Bogdan,

Sorry for the numerous posts in succession which will probably confuse and take up your precious time. I do have a question I have in mind, not the technical kind but one that will probably affect my overall development as a player. I'm afraid it's gonna be a very long post

I started playing NL2 Zoom at PS and at 57k hands is 6.79bb winner and EV bb/100 at 6.27.

Took my first shot at NL5 and ended up 45k hands -4.30bb loser, EV bb/100 is -1.59.
I checked out my game, didn't play really much difference from NL2 but definitely faced lots of suck outs and coolers as I'm about under 4bb EV wise. The rest of my losses are caused by tilt and spew after all those suckouts. I also noticed I get 3-bet a lot from the blinds v my steals and I found it hard to cope w it.

My Stars acct also wasn't tracked to PS so I decided to switch to another room where it's more "fishy". Went to Titan and everything went well. First 10k hands 12.34bb winner. However after Christmas.. next 7.5k hands became -7.87bb loser running at EV bb/100 1.57 which was really hard for me to stomach. I then proceeeded on to donk 4BI on the last time I played which was 3 days ago and decided to stop for a while.

I don't like to complain about how I ran and whatever. I know about variance and I guess I just experienced what a little of it is in my last 7.5k hands. And I guess it's good that I get to know about variance on micro stakes rather than at higher stakes where I can't handle it.

My immediate focus is on studying the game, and becoming a better player. That is why I'm taking the Beginner's Course. Now, I've achieved Gold Status on PS and I've printed out every article there is to read. I'm thinking if I should move back to Stars untracekd instead of staying on with Titan. I'm also gonna use this month to watch lots of Gold Videos.

These are some of the factors I can think of and hopefully seek a kind response from you.

1) Software - Stars definitely pawn Ipoker.

2) Timebank - I can comfortably 4-table NL2 and still learn at a tremendous rate and make good decisions because of ample timebank. But I 2-table NL5 at Titan and only have 10s before I auto-check or fold which has caused me before. And I feel I can't really put my head through the situation and start thinking properly.

3) Players - Stars definitely have much tougher players but it's the micros, so I've seen many bad ones as well. But Titan is definitely much fishier.

4) Table dynamics - I hate this about Titan. Players can buy in for only 20bb. And every hand I play, there is at least TWO shorties which affect my play a lot. I have to think twice before stealing wide, and when they are in the blinds I only raise pretty much my value range. This caused me to play a lot less hands, which I also feel is hindering my learning process as I play many lesser hands.

5) Studying over Profit - Winning at NL5 on Titan vs Winning at NL2 on Stars. (Roll at Stars only permit me playing NL2). I was thinking about point 4, and feel that if I can improve much faster playing at Stars, then it's worth it to win lesser in the short term but improve much faster.

For future EV, I guess moving back to Stars and sticking to NL2 till maybe after I complete the Beginner's Course is the best? So sorry for my long-mindedness. Appreciate that you reached the end! Looking forward to your advice!

Originally posted by cheekopeh
QUESTION:

Hi Bogdan,

Sorry for the numerous posts in succession which will probably confuse and take up your precious time. I do have a question I have in mind, not the technical kind but one that will probably affect my overall development as a player. I'm afraid it's gonna be a very long post

No worries, it's all good !

I started playing NL2 Zoom at PS and at 57k hands is 6.79bb winner and EV bb/100 at 6.27.

Took my first shot at NL5 and ended up 45k hands -4.30bb loser, EV bb/100 is -1.59.
I checked out my game, didn't play really much difference from NL2 but definitely faced lots of suck outs and coolers as I'm about under 4bb EV wise. The rest of my losses are caused by tilt and spew after all those suckouts. I also noticed I get 3-bet a lot from the blinds v my steals and I found it hard to cope w it.

My Stars acct also wasn't tracked to PS so I decided to switch to another room where it's more "fishy". Went to Titan and everything went well. First 10k hands 12.34bb winner. However after Christmas.. next 7.5k hands became -7.87bb loser running at EV bb/100 1.57 which was really hard for me to stomach. I then proceeeded on to donk 4BI on the last time I played which was 3 days ago and decided to stop for a while.

I don't like to complain about how I ran and whatever. I know about variance and I guess I just experienced what a little of it is in my last 7.5k hands. And I guess it's good that I get to know about variance on micro stakes rather than at higher stakes where I can't handle it.

I definitely recommend watching my videos on variance even just to refresh your memory. It's usually hard for us to cope with periods of run bad after having a really successful period of play.

My immediate focus is on studying the game, and becoming a better player. That is why I'm taking the Beginner's Course. Now, I've achieved Gold Status on PS and I've printed out every article there is to read. I'm thinking if I should move back to Stars untracekd instead of staying on with Titan. I'm also gonna use this month to watch lots of Gold Videos.

These are some of the factors I can think of and hopefully seek a kind response from you.

1) Software - Stars definitely pawn Ipoker.

2) Timebank - I can comfortably 4-table NL2 and still learn at a tremendous rate and make good decisions because of ample timebank. But I 2-table NL5 at Titan and only have 10s before I auto-check or fold which has caused me before. And I feel I can't really put my head through the situation and start thinking properly.

3) Players - Stars definitely have much tougher players but it's the micros, so I've seen many bad ones as well. But Titan is definitely much fishier.

4) Table dynamics - I hate this about Titan. Players can buy in for only 20bb. And every hand I play, there is at least TWO shorties which affect my play a lot. I have to think twice before stealing wide, and when they are in the blinds I only raise pretty much my value range. This caused me to play a lot less hands, which I also feel is hindering my learning process as I play many lesser hands.

5) Studying over Profit - Winning at NL5 on Titan vs Winning at NL2 on Stars. (Roll at Stars only permit me playing NL2). I was thinking about point 4, and feel that if I can improve much faster playing at Stars, then it's worth it to win lesser in the short term but improve much faster.

For future EV, I guess moving back to Stars and sticking to NL2 till maybe after I complete the Beginner's Course is the best? So sorry for my long-mindedness. Appreciate that you reached the end! Looking forward to your advice!

1) Software is better on Stars but luckily Titan's is pretty stable and a decent comparable (considering some of the other similar softwares).

2) Timebank is important and having at least some is good.

3) At the micros your focus should be on learning the fundamentals and learning how to exploit the fish (weak opponents) for maximum profit (value).

Theoretically, the more weaker players you face the higher your return should be. So I would concentrate on that (plus you still face regulars)

4) A lot of these micro shorties are very bad and also VERY tight. So you do need to start paying a bit more attention and adjust ranges.

This can actually be a good thing because it trains you to be on your toes more often rather than fall back into autopilot mode.

5) You can still play both. You have to set up your goals (short and long term) and then see what steps are needed to get there.

For example if you want to be at 50nl by the end of the year you need to have X bankroll and move through A, B and C limits. Then you know how much time you have for poker (how much is play/study) and go from there.

My honest opinion would be that playing at Stars, over Titan would not give you a huge advantage, especially if you play Zoom. No matter where you play at it comes down to the work you put in the game and as long as there are fish at the tables you stand to win (the more fish the better).

Keep me posted on how it goes.

Question 1: Post a hand for evaluation where you have based your decisions on the stats of your opponents. (Post your hand in the Hand evaluation board, and provide a link to your hand in your private thread.)

Bogdan, I think at NL2 and NL5, I really don't have enough hands to do this. But I have some general situations which I can give:

1) Limper playing >30 VPIP 6-max and I will definitely iso-raise him for value here. My value range will be ATo+, A9s+, KJo+, KTs+, QJs+, QTo+, any pocket pairs and medium suited connectos

2) Late Position Open-Raiser (loose): If his fto3-bet is high, my 3-bet range will be mostly bluffs and I will flat hands like AK, AQ, JJs, QQs more. If his fto3-bet is low, I will 3-bet mostly for value and widen my value range vs him. This can be AJ, KQ and TTs.

Question 2: Evaluate one of the hands submitted by other members. (Choose a hand from the Hand evaluation board and post your own evaluation in the thread. Post a link to the hand you have evaluated in your private thread. You can evaluate as many hands as you want, but try to choose hands not yet evaluated by other users first.)

NL4 SH: JJ in 3 way pot

Question 3: Consider the following situation:

Stacks & Stats:
UTG ($10)
MP ($8)
MP2 ($9)
CO ($10)
Hero($10)
SB ($10) (17/13/2.6/24/1212) [VPIP/PFR/AF/WTS/Hands]
BB ($10) (27/9/2.0/29/333) [VPIP/PFR/AF/WTS/Hands]

Preflop: Hero is BU with 6♦ , 7♦
4 folds, Hero raises to $0.40, SB calls $0.40, BB calls $0.40

Flop: ($1.20) 3♦ , 3♥ , T♦ (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($1.20) J (3 players)
SB bets $1.00, BB calls $1.00, Hero...

What action would you take, and why?

If I were to play the hand from the start:

Preflop: I would open from the BU vs these 2 blinds. SB seems loose assuming the hands we have for him are Full-Ring. BB is very loose and passive as seen from the huge gap between his VPIP/PFR. He also goes to showdown higher than average, we can get value if we our hand hits. Both of their range will often not hit the board and we can take it down with a c-bet on the right flop.

Flop: I will c-bet this flop for sure. Firstly, it is paired and uncoordinated, the only draw is the diamond draw which we have 2 of them. It makes it more unlikely anyone of them has anything.

Secondly, betting this flop can fold out many better hands like 44s-55s. Even 66s-99s but they might call 1 street. We can also fold out overcards like KJ/QJ, any Ax which beat us and have decent equity and also backdoor/flush possibility.

It is unlikely any worse hands will call though. I can only think of 54dd. But the 2 reasons above are definitely good enough to warrant a c-bet.

Turn: SB's donk tell us that either the J helped him or the made him a Flush. He might also do it with a Turn flushdraw as he is pretty aggressive looking at his stats.

So after this donk vs 2 other players, I put SB on at least a Pair+Flushdraw kind of hand like AJ/AT with the A♦, 2pair like JT, Trips like any 23,34,35,36, and A3 with A♦, a naked A♦, made flush or Fullhouse like TTs/JJs.

He is also capable of having semi-bluffs that got some extra equity on the Turn like KQ with a .. Vs his range (I hope I'm right w the assignment of it, and I manually typed in all the combos), I'm good like 60% of the time.

I don't like that BB is coming along and it's difficult to construct a range for him. On the Turn when he calls, it's pretty much some Tx, or some underpairs which he is stubborn with like 88-99s.

Vs the ranges of both my opps, I am good a lot of the time. But my hand is still very vulnerable to a lot of River cards. Any and I'm screwed, a 3,T,J will make the board double paired. That is 16 out of 46 cards, 1/3 of the deck which I don't want to see at all.

My decisions would then be: Considering BB flatted and if both just call, the pot would be so huge by the River ($13.40) that I have only $5.40 left. I don't want to see a scare card and tear my hair out at what I should do. I think going all-in is the best option. SB will call his entire value range here(which we are ahead of), which we assume that is what he has when he donks into 2 opps OOP.

Question 4: Consider the following situation:

Stacks & Stats
UTG ($8)
MP ($10)
MP2 ($9)
MP3 ($6)
Hero ($10)
BU ($10) (25/21/3.8/26/1250) [VPIP/PFR/AF/WTS/Hands]
SB ($10)
BB ($10)

Preflop: Hero is CO with J♥ , J♠
4 folds, Hero raises to $0.40, BU 3-bets to $1.30, 2 folds, Hero calls $1.30

Flop: ($2.75) 6♥ , 9♠ , T♣ (2 players)
Hero...

What action would you take, and why?

Once again, if I were to play this from the start:

Preflop: BU looks competent and is a LAG. We don't have any positional 3-bet stat on him. He might be full of it, but generally I think calling 3-bet OOP vs aggressive opponent is gonna be suicidal. So I will just fold. Unless I have some kind of read that he likes to c-bet and give up on Turn (which I can then do a reverse float ?() or he either likes to fire multiple barrels with air and I am ready to call down.

As played, I think checking is the best option here. Betting is really pointless, he is not going to let go of his hand on this kind of flop. He can easily raise us polarized (leaning towards air), or float and take it down on the Turn, or just call down his medium made hands for pot-control.

Since I have called the 3-bet preflop, I like to play check/call. We can't represent much check/raising on this Flop. Our hand has showdown value, so as pointed out I just hope to call down and hope he shuts down. I think I can call 2 streets with my hand unless I turn some equity like a 7 or 8 which also gives me a Gutshot.

Yep, that's it. Such a tough question

#Homework 5 done! It's getting difficult! Sorry for the long-windedness. Hope I'm not too far off track.

Originally posted by BogdanPS
I definitely recommend watching my videos on variance even just to refresh your memory. It's usually hard for us to cope with periods of run bad after having a really successful period of play.

I love your Mental Game Series thus far. The first 3 parts about variance really opened my eyes to Poker

1) Work on my game to increase my win-rate

2) Putting in volume to "normalize" variance

3) Because of the variance which comes along w the game, there is no point tilting. It is absolutely COMMON to have HUGE DOWNSWINGS even when you are playing good. Even over few hundred k hands. Tilting just cause you to lose more and even go bust.

4) Do not make unnecessary short-term changes to my game just because I'm losing. It might be because of variance but I am still making the right plays. In turn, this might be damaging to my game.

1) Software is better on Stars but luckily Titan's is pretty stable and a decent comparable (considering some of the other similar softwares).

2) Timebank is important and having at least some is good.

3) At the micros your focus should be on learning the fundamentals and learning how to exploit the fish (weak opponents) for maximum profit (value).

Theoretically, the more weaker players you face the higher your return should be. So I would concentrate on that (plus you still face regulars)

4) A lot of these micro shorties are very bad and also VERY tight. So you do need to start paying a bit more attention and adjust ranges.

This can actually be a good thing because it trains you to be on your toes more often rather than fall back into autopilot mode.

5) You can still play both. You have to set up your goals (short and long term) and then see what steps are needed to get there.

For example if you want to be at 50nl by the end of the year you need to have X bankroll and move through A, B and C limits. Then you know how much time you have for poker (how much is play/study) and go from there.

My honest opinion would be that playing at Stars, over Titan would not give you a huge advantage, especially if you play Zoom. No matter where you play at it comes down to the work you put in the game and as long as there are fish at the tables you stand to win (the more fish the better).

Keep me posted on how it goes.

Great! I've always wondered why I have not been making strides in my game even though I can see slight improvements. That is because I have not been making any goals! Saw part 4 & 5 of the series and it's a very simple example of how I can plan my goals. Will dedicate some time to it and post my goals very soon. Definitely keeping you posted.

Thanks Bogdan!

Originally posted by cheekopeh
Question 1: Post a hand for evaluation where you have based your decisions on the stats of your opponents. (Post your hand in the Hand evaluation board, and provide a link to your hand in your private thread.)

Bogdan, I think at NL2 and NL5, I really don't have enough hands to do this. But I have some general situations which I can give:

1) Limper playing >30 VPIP 6-max and I will definitely iso-raise him for value here. My value range will be ATo+, A9s+, KJo+, KTs+, QJs+, QTo+, any pocket pairs and medium suited connectos

2) Late Position Open-Raiser (loose): If his fto3-bet is high, my 3-bet range will be mostly bluffs and I will flat hands like AK, AQ, JJs, QQs more. If his fto3-bet is low, I will 3-bet mostly for value and widen my value range vs him. This can be AJ, KQ and TTs.

You should be able to find hands to post for evaluation. It's important to challenge yourself a bit as well meaning that even though you may agree with a play it may not be the most correct one. So post a few hands in which you think you did the right think but you'd like someone else to give their opinion. For example a fold preflop or possibly a missed vbet on a river.

1) We shouldn't group all these >30 VPIP fish together because one that plays 35% of their hands will play differently than one with 95% VPIP.

however as a general rule your range looks fine. You can probably add most suited aces while IP (as long as you don't overvalue your TP when hit).

2) How does your 3-bet bluff range look like?

Question 2: Evaluate one of the hands submitted by other members. (Choose a hand from the Hand evaluation board and post your own evaluation in the thread. Post a link to the hand you have evaluated in your private thread. You can evaluate as many hands as you want, but try to choose hands not yet evaluated by other users first.)

NL4 SH: JJ in 3 way pot

Question 3: Consider the following situation:

$10 NL Hold'em (7-handed)

Stacks & Stats:
UTG ($10)
MP ($8)
MP2 ($9)
CO ($10)
Hero($10)
SB ($10) (17/13/2.6/24/1212) [VPIP/PFR/AF/WTS/Hands]
BB ($10) (27/9/2.0/29/333) [VPIP/PFR/AF/WTS/Hands]

Preflop: Hero is BU with 6♦ , 7♦
4 folds, Hero raises to $0.40, SB calls $0.40, BB calls $0.40

Flop: ($1.20) 3♦ , 3♥ , T♦ (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($1.20) J (3 players)
SB bets $1.00, BB calls $1.00, Hero...

What action would you take, and why?

If I were to play the hand from the start:

Preflop: I would open from the BU vs these 2 blinds. SB seems loose assuming the hands we have for him are Full-Ring. BB is very loose and passive as seen from the huge gap between his VPIP/PFR. He also goes to showdown higher than average, we can get value if we our hand hits. Both of their range will often not hit the board and we can take it down with a c-bet on the right flop.

Flop: I will c-bet this flop for sure. Firstly, it is paired and uncoordinated, the only draw is the diamond draw which we have 2 of them. It makes it more unlikely anyone of them has anything.

Secondly, betting this flop can fold out many better hands like 44s-55s. Even 66s-99s but they might call 1 street. We can also fold out overcards like KJ/QJ, any Ax which beat us and have decent equity and also backdoor/flush possibility.

It is unlikely any worse hands will call though. I can only think of 54dd. But the 2 reasons above are definitely good enough to warrant a c-bet.

Turn: SB's donk tell us that either the J helped him or the made him a Flush. He might also do it with a Turn flushdraw as he is pretty aggressive looking at his stats.

So after this donk vs 2 other players, I put SB on at least a Pair+Flushdraw kind of hand like AJ/AT with the A♦, 2pair like JT, Trips like any 23,34,35,36, and A3 with A♦, a naked A♦, made flush or Fullhouse like TTs/JJs.

He is also capable of having semi-bluffs that got some extra equity on the Turn like KQ with a .. Vs his range (I hope I'm right w the assignment of it, and I manually typed in all the combos), I'm good like 60% of the time.

I don't like that BB is coming along and it's difficult to construct a range for him. On the Turn when he calls, it's pretty much some Tx, or some underpairs which he is stubborn with like 88-99s.

Vs the ranges of both my opps, I am good a lot of the time. But my hand is still very vulnerable to a lot of River cards. Any and I'm screwed, a 3,T,J will make the board double paired. That is 16 out of 46 cards, 1/3 of the deck which I don't want to see at all.

My decisions would then be: Considering BB flatted and if both just call, the pot would be so huge by the River ($13.40) that I have only $5.40 left. I don't want to see a scare card and tear my hair out at what I should do. I think going all-in is the best option. SB will call his entire value range here(which we are ahead of), which we assume that is what he has when he donks into 2 opps OOP.

Well done, this is really detailed and you put a lot of effort into it.

Question 4: Consider the following situation:

$10 NL Hold'em (8-handed)

Stacks & Stats
UTG ($8)
MP ($10)
MP2 ($9)
MP3 ($6)
Hero ($10)
BU ($10) (25/21/3.8/26/1250) [VPIP/PFR/AF/WTS/Hands]
SB ($10)
BB ($10)

Preflop: Hero is CO with J♥ , J♠
4 folds, Hero raises to $0.40, BU 3-bets to $1.30, 2 folds, Hero calls $1.30

Flop: ($2.75) 6♥ , 9♠ , T♣ (2 players)
Hero...

What action would you take, and why?

Once again, if I were to play this from the start:

Preflop: BU looks competent and is a LAG. We don't have any positional 3-bet stat on him. He might be full of it, but generally I think calling 3-bet OOP vs aggressive opponent is gonna be suicidal. So I will just fold. Unless I have some kind of read that he likes to c-bet and give up on Turn (which I can then do a reverse float ?() or he either likes to fire multiple barrels with air and I am ready to call down.

As played, I think checking is the best option here. Betting is really pointless, he is not going to let go of his hand on this kind of flop. He can easily raise us polarized (leaning towards air), or float and take it down on the Turn, or just call down his medium made hands for pot-control.

Since I have called the 3-bet preflop, I like to play check/call. We can't represent much check/raising on this Flop. Our hand has showdown value, so as pointed out I just hope to call down and hope he shuts down. I think I can call 2 streets with my hand unless I turn some equity like a 7 or 8 which also gives me a Gutshot.

Yep, that's it. Such a tough question

#Homework 5 done! It's getting difficult! Sorry for the long-windedness. Hope I'm not too far off track.

Well done once again.

I agree with you that either folding or 4-betting is best preflop (without much info on villains tendencies).

As played checking to him on this dry board is fine because we can easily ck/call or even ck/raise as we have the best hand often.

Homework 5 is indeed complete and well done overall. You are one of the few that actually puts some solid effort into your answers

Great work.

Best of luck at the tables.

Question 1: Post a hand for evaluation where you have either a) freeplay, b) slowplay, or c) multi-way pot situation. (Post your hand in the Hand evaluation board, and provide a link to your hand in your private thread.)

Slowplay

Multiway

Question 2: Evaluate one of the hands submitted by other members. (Choose a hand from the Hand evaluation board and post your own evaluation in the thread. Post a link to the hand you have evaluated in your private thread. You can evaluate as many hands as you want, but try to choose hands not yet evaluated by other users first.)

[SH] NL2 JJ 07-02-13 (zoom)

Question 3: Consider the following situation:

Stacks & Stats
UTG ($25)
UTG+1 ($25) rock
UTG+2 ($25)
MP1 ($25)
MP2 ($25) LAG
MP3 ($25) maniac
CO ($25)
Hero BU ($25)
SB ($25)
BB ($25) calling station

Preflop: Hero is BU with Q , J
5 folds, MP3 raises $1.00, CO calls $1.00, Hero calls $1.00, 1 fold, BB calls $1.00

Flop: ($4.10) 3 , J , A (4 players)
BB checks, MP3 checks, CO checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($4.10) Q (4 players)
BB bets $2.05, 2 folds, Hero...?

What action would you take, and why?

How I would play it:

PF: With Position, I wouldn't mind calling here. However, I would also check both blinds and see if they are fishes, and if they like to squeeze. I will just fold it if they are squeeze happy.

Flop: Here, I would check too. When MP3 (original raiser) checks, we can safely assume he doesn't have an Ace, but our other 2 opps might have it. The flop is quite dry as well so I think betting will only isolate ourselves against better hands.

Turn: After BB bets 1/2 pot, I prefer raising for value here. His range is still quite undefined, but we can put him on Ax which checked on the flop w/o initiative.

Hands that we beat
1) Ax which checked on River other than AJ/AQ
2) Qx hands like Q9s-QT
3) One pair hands which catches a GS like JT, QT, KJ-KQ
4) Club draw

Hands that beat us
1) Sets (AA is unlikely)
2) KT, AJ-AQ, A3s

These are the hands I feel BB will play like this. Hopefully I did not miss out on other hands.

Vs this range, we have about 55% equity. Our hand is super vulnerable to any , broadway card on the River and we lose a lot of value if we do not raise now. So I will definitely raise this Turn and get it in with a good equity (:

#Homework 6 done!

Originally posted by BogdanPS

Homework 5 is indeed complete and well done overall. You are one of the few that actually puts some solid effort into your answers

Great work.

Thank you for your kind words Bogdan ♦

Give me 15 mins and Equilab and I think I can give a good & proper reasoning to how I will play a hand. Put me at the tables and I'll be panicking like a headless chicken. Lol. I need much more practice.

I like to take my time to read through the articles, watch e videos & take notes so hopefully the "long" time I'm taking to go through the e course will pay off. Nevertheless, I still have so much to work on my game. Especially value-betting and hand-reading.

Quite random, but thank you for your work at the HE forums and also the many good videos which you have produced. Keep rolling Coach!

Question 1: Post a hand for evaluation where you have played on a 6-max table (short-handed). (Post your hand in the No Limit: Hand Evaluations forum, and provide a link to your hand in your private thread.)

BvB 76s 3-bet
KKs facing River decision
QQs difficult decision multiway
AQo Top 2 deciding size of Value-bet
62s Freeplay Pair+FD

Question 2: Evaluate one of the hands submitted by other members (Choose a hand from the No Limit: Hand Evaluations board and post your own evaluation in the thread. Post a link to the hand you have evaluated in your private thread. You can evaluate as many hands as you want, but try to choose hands not yet evaluated by other users first.)

anon tables nl4 sh 99 bb

Question 3: Consider the following situation:

$10 NL Hold'em (6 handed)

Stacks & Stats:
UTG ($10)
MP ($10)
CO ($10)
BU($10)
SB ($10)
BB (Hero) ($10)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 5♥, 4♥
2 folds, CO raises to $0.40, BU calls $0.40, SB calls $0.40, Hero calls $0.40

Flop: ($1.60) 3♠ , 2♥ , Q♥ (4 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1.20, CO Raises All-in, BU calls All-in, SB folds, Hero...

What action would you take, and why?

PF: I will call as I need to invest $0.30 into $1.30 pot about 4:1 odds & I'm closing the action. We can play for stacks if we hit hard.

Flop: I will play for stacks on this Flop because we have a monster. However I will choose not to donk here. I will play x/r to get more money in and then call 3-bet shove as I've already invested a portion of my stack and my odds to call shove will be good. I also do not mind taking a free Turn card to see if I can hit my draw. If it is checked around I will lead out any Turn card.

But as played, when we donked and get raised all in by original raiser and a call by BU, that kinda sucks. These are the ranges I assign to both CO and BU.

Basically we are facing nut-flush draws, sets & overpairs. Not sure if I am too optimistic in assigning these hands which they will shove and call a shove with. If specifically, we face a set and another the nut flush draw, we're f**ked ♦

But if the ranges hold true, our pot odds are call $8.40 to win $22 which is around 1:2.6 = 27.7% and our hand has 33.33% equity so I think it's a call. If we'd x/r, it will be easier to call.

Question 4: Consider the following situation:

$10 NL Hold'em (6 handed)

Stacks & Stats:
UTG ($10)
MP ($10)
CO (Hero) ($10)
BU($10)
SB ($10)
BB ($10)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A♣ , K♠
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.40, BU calls $0.40, SB calls $0.40, BB calls $0.40

Flop: ($1.60) A♠ , 4♣ , 4♦ (4 players)
SB checks, BB bets $1.20, Hero...

What action would you take, and why?

As played: The flop is so dry I'm either WAWB here so I will just call BB's donk. His donk should set me off to play cautiously especially with 3 other players in the hand. Hopefully, all others fold and we go heads-up as it will definitely be easier to play IP.

Turn: I will call Turn again if he bets to keep his entire range (value+bluffing) in. I beat most of his value range as well like Ax. Not sure he will donk out Ax on the flop. But saying that, don't think he will donk a 4x as well as he will probably want to x/r. So he might be doing that with worse PPs. But I think his donk on the Flop looks super strong.

If he checks, I will go ahead and bet for value and fold to any raise.

River: It will probably be a shove if he decides to bet, I think I will seriously consider folding here. I just don't see why he will lead out worse Ax vs 3 other players w/o initiative and w/o position on the flop. Unless I have specific reads/stats that he overplays his hands, I think I will fold here.

#Homework 7 done! Sorry for the long post once again!

Hi Bogdan, I have a question..

Responding to a 3-bet

1) I have moved up to NL5 Zoom. Although I have not checked HM2, it seems like I have there's a lot more 3-betting going on in NL5 than on NL2 for whatever reason.

I'm playing nitty 18/15/3.8/4.8/ vpip/pfr/af/3-bet/over 50k hands. Ft3b is 62.3%

My last session of 1.5k hands, I lost about 54bb getting 3-bet by opps. Played around 270 (VPIP 18) hands and 25~ of those I got 3-bet. I folded 18 of them. This means that I got 3-bet 25 out of 270 hands I played which is a 3-bet every 11 hands~

I don't know if that's just a short term trend, but I am determined to study and make an informed decision about responding to a 3-bet the next time round.

I would like to know how to play against an unknown 100bb 3-bettor from the BU & Blinds. First off, the important factor I always take into consideration is I do not have any reads and stats on opps in Zoom. Thus I tend to give them credit and try not to fight back and become too spewy.

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How I Am Responding Now to Unknowns

a) Vs a BU 3-bettor

To a >3x 3-bet:
I call QQ.
I fold even JJ and AK because I don't hit most of the time and I have to x/f. And as stated, I don't want to spaz and spew off on a crazy bluff.

To a lesser than 3x 3-bet:
I call all PPs and try to setmine and also AK+

I 4-bet AA-KK for value and A2s-A5s, KQo-KJo as bluffs. In reality, it's even lesser because I'm OOP and I fear having my 4-bet called.

b) Vs The Blinds

My CO steal: 32% | My BTN steal: 45%

To a >3x 3-bet:
I call AK+ TT-QQ. I call a few more hands because I'm IP.

To a lesser than 3x 3-bet: I flat all PPs, AQ+

I 4-bet AA-KK for value and A2s-A5s, KQo-KJo as bluffs.

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As you can see, my calling range for 3-bets and 4-betting range is super exploitable and tight. Which means I will be folding I think 80-90% of my opening range and I think I'm leaking a lot of money here. Worse still when I'm Out of Position.

I adjust accordingly to those I have stats and reads on so that area is not an issue. Instead, do you have any advice for me on playing against 3-bets vs unknowns?

Thank you for your time!

Originally posted by cheekopeh
Question 1: Post a hand for evaluation where you have either a) freeplay, b) slowplay, or c) multi-way pot situation. (Post your hand in the Hand evaluation board, and provide a link to your hand in your private thread.)

Slowplay

Multiway

Well done, Homework 6 complete.

Question 2: Evaluate one of the hands submitted by other members. (Choose a hand from the Hand evaluation board and post your own evaluation in the thread. Post a link to the hand you have evaluated in your private thread. You can evaluate as many hands as you want, but try to choose hands not yet evaluated by other users first.)

[SH] NL2 JJ 07-02-13 (zoom)

Question 3: Consider the following situation:

$25 NL Hold'em (10 handed)

Stacks & Stats
UTG ($25)
UTG+1 ($25) rock
UTG+2 ($25)
MP1 ($25)
MP2 ($25) LAG
MP3 ($25) maniac
CO ($25)
Hero BU ($25)
SB ($25)
BB ($25) calling station

Preflop: Hero is BU with Q , J
5 folds, MP3 raises $1.00, CO calls $1.00, Hero calls $1.00, 1 fold, BB calls $1.00

Flop: ($4.10) 3 , J , A (4 players)
BB checks, MP3 checks, CO checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($4.10) Q (4 players)
BB bets $2.05, 2 folds, Hero...?

What action would you take, and why?

How I would play it:

PF: With Position, I wouldn't mind calling here. However, I would also check both blinds and see if they are fishes, and if they like to squeeze. I will just fold it if they are squeeze happy.

Flop: Here, I would check too. When MP3 (original raiser) checks, we can safely assume he doesn't have an Ace, but our other 2 opps might have it. The flop is quite dry as well so I think betting will only isolate ourselves against better hands.

Turn: After BB bets 1/2 pot, I prefer raising for value here. His range is still quite undefined, but we can put him on Ax which checked on the flop w/o initiative.

Hands that we beat
1) Ax which checked on River other than AJ/AQ
2) Qx hands like Q9s-QT
3) One pair hands which catches a GS like JT, QT, KJ-KQ
4) Club draw

Hands that beat us
1) Sets (AA is unlikely)
2) KT, AJ-AQ, A3s

These are the hands I feel BB will play like this. Hopefully I did not miss out on other hands.

Vs this range, we have about 55% equity. Our hand is super vulnerable to any , broadway card on the River and we lose a lot of value if we do not raise now. So I will definitely raise this Turn and get it in with a good equity (:

#Homework 6 done!

I agree with your analysis for this hand and I also think that raising is fine versus a station that can bet/call 1p hands and draws.

Homework 7 complete as well,

Congrats.

I will not quote it because it can get pretty long in here.

Q3: Again I agree with your analysis. Once the money goes in there it's hard for us to fold 3-way despite us being behind every time and chasing it. It's problematic when we face better draws because that cuts our outs significantly but their ranges can be wider than that.

However, we are never in a fist pump get it all in scenario as we will barely be above break even.

I also agree with a ck/raise as being another good option. Afterall we have 5 high so if we take the pot down it's not too bad.

Q4: I agree with your analysis here as well.

Keep up the good work.

Bogdan

Originally posted by cheekopeh
Hi Bogdan, I have a question..

Responding to a 3-bet

1) I have moved up to NL5 Zoom. Although I have not checked HM2, it seems like I have there's a lot more 3-betting going on in NL5 than on NL2 for whatever reason.

I'm playing nitty 18/15/3.8/4.8/ vpip/pfr/af/3-bet/over 50k hands. Ft3b is 62.3%

My last session of 1.5k hands, I lost about 54bb getting 3-bet by opps. Played around 270 (VPIP 18) hands and 25~ of those I got 3-bet. I folded 18 of them. This means that I got 3-bet 25 out of 270 hands I played which is a 3-bet every 11 hands~

I don't know if that's just a short term trend, but I am determined to study and make an informed decision about responding to a 3-bet the next time round.

I would like to know how to play against an unknown 100bb 3-bettor from the BU & Blinds. First off, the important factor I always take into consideration is I do not have any reads and stats on opps in Zoom. Thus I tend to give them credit and try not to fight back and become too spewy.

Generally speaking your approach is good. I think that it may be a sample issue and it's just variance. For example we play 10 nl zoom SH at coachings at the games are super passive. I think that last week i was playing 38/36/20% 3-bet and noone was really playing back and this week we played similarly over about 300 hands each. Of course that's not a sample but the games seemed really passive in comparison with regular tables. So I doubt 5nl is that much more aggro.

With that being said there are things we can do such as calling a bit more IP (in steal/resteal spots) and 4-bet bluffing.

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How I Am Responding Now to Unknowns

a) Vs a BU 3-bettor

To a >3x 3-bet:
I call QQ.
I fold even JJ and AK because I don't hit most of the time and I have to x/f. And as stated, I don't want to spaz and spew off on a crazy bluff.

I think that folding AK is a mistake. The value in 4-betting that comes from picking up the dead money and if he shoves we still have enough equity to call (on average).

To a lesser than 3x 3-bet:
I call all PPs and try to setmine and also AK+

I 4-bet AA-KK for value and A2s-A5s, KQo-KJo as bluffs. In reality, it's even lesser because I'm OOP and I fear having my 4-bet called.

Why are we 4-betting so little for value? AK and QQ can be part of our value 4-bet range (at the very least).

b) Vs The Blinds

My CO steal: 32% | My BTN steal: 45%

To a >3x 3-bet:
I call AK+ TT-QQ. I call a few more hands because I'm IP.

To a lesser than 3x 3-bet: I flat all PPs, AQ+

I 4-bet AA-KK for value and A2s-A5s, KQo-KJo as bluffs.

VS blinds it almost always means we are IP so we should look at calling more hands like AJs, ATs, AQ, etc. and 4-bet for value JJ+, AK+

I think that flatting too many hands versus unknowns is a mistake.

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As you can see, my calling range for 3-bets and 4-betting range is super exploitable and tight. Which means I will be folding I think 80-90% of my opening range and I think I'm leaking a lot of money here. Worse still when I'm Out of Position.

I adjust accordingly to those I have stats and reads on so that area is not an issue. Instead, do you have any advice for me on playing against 3-bets vs unknowns?

Thank you for your time!

I do recommend giving the new limit a bit more time before things normalize.

If the games stay aggro we can definitely increase our value 4-bet range and start calling bigger broadways and pairs, especially IP and add more bluffs OOP.

Best of luck,

Bogdan

Question 1: Post a hand for evaluation. (Post your hand in the No Limit: Hand Evaluations board, and provide a link to your hand in your private thread.)

NL5 Zoom 77 set funny play
NL5 Zoom AKo 5-bet shove 49bb SB v CO
NL5 Zoom AQo

Question 2: Evaluate one of the hands submitted by other members. ( Choose a hand from the No Limit: Hand Evaluations board and post your own evaluation in the thread. Post a link to the hand you have evaluated in your private thread. You can evaluate as many hands as you want, but try to choose hands not yet evaluated by other users first.)

nl10 AKs

Question 3: Consider the following situation:

Stacks & Stats:
UTG ($100)
UTG+1 ($100)
MP1 ($100)
MP2 ($100)
Hero ($100)
CO ($100)
BU ($100)
SB ($100)
BB ($100) (18/15/3.7/23/732)[VPIP/PFR/AF/WTS/Hands]

Preflop: Hero is BU with 8♥ , 9♥
4 folds, Hero raises to $4.00, 3 folds, BB calls $4.00

Flop: ($8.50) 3♥ , 6♥ , 8♦ (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $5.50, BB calls $5.50

Turn: ($19.50) J♥ (2 players)
BB checks, Hero...

What action would you take, and why?

PF: BB is playing pretty loose 9-handed but he probably tightens up in the blinds. When he defends I put him on a range like PPs, suited connectors and some KT+, QJ+.. Also assume that he 3-bets AJ+, 99+ as value and weak Aces/Kings as bluffs.

Flop: I don't think this Flop hits his range very well. When he x/c our 2/3 bet, he might have a variety of hands. I don't think he floats that much w Ax/Kx as he is OOP. So I feel he has a medium strength hand like 1 pair, 98, 87, 76, 65 etc. Also possible to have straight draws T9,97,75,54.. And of course heart draw. If he had PPs, I think he only has 77s or 99s here as he would have either 3-bet PF or fold now with the rest.

Turn: Given e range we've assigned him on e Flop, I think there is not much value in betting here as there just aren't enough worse hands that will call.

His 1 pair now becomes 2nd pair or 3rd pair, and there is a possible flush. His straight draws miss completely and will just x/f now. Which leaves us with only his heart draw. We beat 4,5,7 high flush and lose to T,Q,K,A high flush.

Check is good also because he might turn his hand into a bluff on e River which he might just x/f on e Turn. If he has us beat already, we can control e pot and just call his River bet.

BONUS Question 4 (optional question): Consider the following situation:

Stacks & Stats:
MP2 (Hero) ($327.95)
MP3 ($207.45)
CO ($415.55) (TAG)
BU ($373.60) (TAG)
SB ($200.00)
BB ($218.00)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 7♥ , 8♥
Hero raises to $7, 1 folds, CO raises to $23, BU calls $23, SB folds, BB folds, Hero calls $16

Flop: ($72) 7♣ , 8♠ , 8♦ (3 players)
Hero checks, CO checks, BU bets $52, Hero calls, CO calls

Turn: ($228) K♦ (3 players)
Hero checks, CO checks, BU checks

River: ($228) Q♥ (3 players)
Hero bets $110, CO raises to $340.55 (All-in), BU folds, Hero?

What factors and concepts that you have learned so far would you use in evaluating this situation? What would your action be?

PF: I'm a fish so I will fold over e 3-bet even though I'm getting 3.5:1 odds to call. Lol. I put CO on a tight value range here.

1) He is a TAG
2) He is 3-betting UTG opener
3) He cannot guarantee absolute position

His range can be 99+, AJ+, KQ, and some bluffs like suited one gappers+

BU is also a TAG, even though he has absolute position because he knows he is not closing e action. I don't discount premium hands because he can flat and hope for a 4-bet from e blinds or myself e original raiser. So I don't think he is out of line w his range.

Flop:

What a Flop! I will also check here and slowplay w the absolute nuts. It doesn't hit CO's/BU's range at all unless they already have an overpair or something like 77s and 87 like us. So it doesn't make sense to raise at all, it will only chase out drawing hands like T9 and even TTs/JJs.

Turn:

It is a good card because now there is a diamond draw and all e Kx has TP which will almost definitely have at least a good kicker. I am more inclined to play x/r instead of just x/c here because we want more money in e pot. And they will almost always call their TP here because they think we are "full of it" after that x on e Flop.

River:

W all e checking on e Turn, betting here is imperative. I actually like to question e bet size here. If we believe only Kx & even Qx will call us 90% of e time because of all e checking earlier, why not bet even bigger? I can see e only problem is we have $252.95 left behind before our bet. So we want to give our chance to get away from a shove raise in case e opps might have QQ/KK.

The way CO played it, it really does seem he has QQs/KKs or KQ. I do not think it is likely for him to raise KQ as well. So he can really only have QQs/KKs who caught up or a pure bluff. We have to call $142.95 for a $480.95 pot. But I actually think we should fold here. It really does smell like QQs/KKs.

#Lesson 8 done.

Now for e graduation exam

How do I take it? ♦

Originally posted by cheekopeh
Question 1: Post a hand for evaluation. (Post your hand in the No Limit: Hand Evaluations board, and provide a link to your hand in your private thread.)

NL5 Zoom 77 set funny play
NL5 Zoom AKo 5-bet shove 49bb SB v CO
NL5 Zoom AQo

Well done,

Homework 8 complete.

Question 2: Evaluate one of the hands submitted by other members. ( Choose a hand from the No Limit: Hand Evaluations board and post your own evaluation in the thread. Post a link to the hand you have evaluated in your private thread. You can evaluate as many hands as you want, but try to choose hands not yet evaluated by other users first.)

nl10 AKs

Question 3: Consider the following situation:

$100 NL Hold'em (9 handed)

Stacks & Stats:
UTG ($100)
UTG+1 ($100)
MP1 ($100)
MP2 ($100)
Hero ($100)
CO ($100)
BU ($100)
SB ($100)
BB ($100) (18/15/3.7/23/732)[VPIP/PFR/AF/WTS/Hands]

Preflop: Hero is BU with 8♥ , 9♥
4 folds, Hero raises to $4.00, 3 folds, BB calls $4.00

Flop: ($8.50) 3♥ , 6♥ , 8♦ (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $5.50, BB calls $5.50

Turn: ($19.50) J♥ (2 players)
BB checks, Hero...

What action would you take, and why?

PF: BB is playing pretty loose 9-handed but he probably tightens up in the blinds. When he defends I put him on a range like PPs, suited connectors and some KT+, QJ+.. Also assume that he 3-bets AJ+, 99+ as value and weak Aces/Kings as bluffs.

Flop: I don't think this Flop hits his range very well. When he x/c our 2/3 bet, he might have a variety of hands. I don't think he floats that much w Ax/Kx as he is OOP. So I feel he has a medium strength hand like 1 pair, 98, 87, 76, 65 etc. Also possible to have straight draws T9,97,75,54.. And of course heart draw. If he had PPs, I think he only has 77s or 99s here as he would have either 3-bet PF or fold now with the rest.

Turn: Given e range we've assigned him on e Flop, I think there is not much value in betting here as there just aren't enough worse hands that will call.

His 1 pair now becomes 2nd pair or 3rd pair, and there is a possible flush. His straight draws miss completely and will just x/f now. Which leaves us with only his heart draw. We beat 4,5,7 high flush and lose to T,Q,K,A high flush.

Check is good also because he might turn his hand into a bluff on e River which he might just x/f on e Turn. If he has us beat already, we can control e pot and just call his River bet.

With 700 hands on him we can definitely look at more stats since we lack reads. However we can see that his WTSD is only 23 which implies that he is most likely not one to bluffcatch light.

So there's little value in a bet unless we feel that he can bluff the scare card (or semibluff). Since it's 100 nl I'd also discount some combos of draws that would ck/raise the flop.

BONUS Question 4 (optional question): Consider the following situation:

$200 NL Hold'em (6 handed)

Stacks & Stats:
MP2 (Hero) ($327.95)
MP3 ($207.45)
CO ($415.55) (TAG)
BU ($373.60) (TAG)
SB ($200.00)
BB ($218.00)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 7♥ , 8♥
Hero raises to $7, 1 folds, CO raises to $23, BU calls $23, SB folds, BB folds, Hero calls $16

Flop: ($72) 7♣ , 8♠ , 8♦ (3 players)
Hero checks, CO checks, BU bets $52, Hero calls, CO calls

Turn: ($228) K♦ (3 players)
Hero checks, CO checks, BU checks

River: ($228) Q♥ (3 players)
Hero bets $110, CO raises to $340.55 (All-in), BU folds, Hero?

What factors and concepts that you have learned so far would you use in evaluating this situation? What would your action be?

PF: I'm a fish so I will fold over e 3-bet even though I'm getting 3.5:1 odds to call. Lol. I put CO on a tight value range here.

1) He is a TAG
2) He is 3-betting UTG opener
3) He cannot guarantee absolute position

His range can be 99+, AJ+, KQ, and some bluffs like suited one gappers+

BU is also a TAG, even though he has absolute position because he knows he is not closing e action. I don't discount premium hands because he can flat and hope for a 4-bet from e blinds or myself e original raiser. So I don't think he is out of line w his range.

Flop:

What a Flop! I will also check here and slowplay w the absolute nuts. It doesn't hit CO's/BU's range at all unless they already have an overpair or something like 77s and 87 like us. So it doesn't make sense to raise at all, it will only chase out drawing hands like T9 and even TTs/JJs.

Turn:

It is a good card because now there is a diamond draw and all e Kx has TP which will almost definitely have at least a good kicker. I am more inclined to play x/r instead of just x/c here because we want more money in e pot. And they will almost always call their TP here because they think we are "full of it" after that x on e Flop.

River:

W all e checking on e Turn, betting here is imperative. I actually like to question e bet size here. If we believe only Kx & even Qx will call us 90% of e time because of all e checking earlier, why not bet even bigger? I can see e only problem is we have $252.95 left behind before our bet. So we want to give our chance to get away from a shove raise in case e opps might have QQ/KK.

The way CO played it, it really does seem he has QQs/KKs or KQ. I do not think it is likely for him to raise KQ as well. So he can really only have QQs/KKs who caught up or a pure bluff. We have to call $142.95 for a $480.95 pot. But I actually think we should fold here. It really does smell like QQs/KKs.

#Lesson 8 done.

Now for e graduation exam

How do I take it? ♦

You can take the exam from the same page that has all the lessons listed.

As far as Q4 goes would CO check the flop with QQ/KK and then call? It's possible but very unlikely. He also has one combo of 77 that can play like this.

Also, our range is interesting to look at too (at these limit we have to think about what we rep as well).

We never have AK or QQ+ here and we rarely ever have Kx in our calling flop range. So really the only hand we can valuebet is a major 8x or 77/88 hand so villain can think about bluffing us.

Hi Bogdan,

I've completed the graduation quiz a week ago. Not sure if it's being evaluated now?

Originally posted by cheekopeh
Hi Bogdan,

I've completed the graduation quiz a week ago. Not sure if it's being evaluated now?

Hi Cheekopeh,

I do not have access to them. I will ask for you and see what I can find out.

Bogdan