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kevvu
Joined: 11.05.2008

Party, $10.25 Buy-in (50/100 blinds, 10 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 3 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

Hero (BTN): 615 (6.2 bb)
BB: 562 (5.6 bb)
SB: 1,823 (18.2 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with A 3
Hero raises to 200, SB folds, BB calls 100

Flop: (480) 7 9 2 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets 405 and is all-in, BB calls 352 and is all-in

Turn: (1,184) 3 (2 players, 2 are all-in)
River: (1,184) 4 (2 players, 2 are all-in)

Results:

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1,184 pot
Final Board: 7 9 2 3 4
Hero showed A 3 and lost (-562 net)
BB showed A 9 and won 1,184 (622 net)

Both are decent regs. Dont know nothing special about them.
With what range will u r/c vs 1 and r/c vs both of them?
thx


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ummm you have 6bb effective. its not r/c or r/f its shove or fold. in actuality its non-allin-allin or fold. i would stick close to nash, probably a bit tighter because the SB and BB will collide fairly often.


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wiarygodny
Joined: 16.07.2009

Originally posted by lessthanthreee
in actuality its non-allin-allin or fold.

just out of curiosity why would you use the nonAI in this spot? you're obv not r/f against any of them but are you folding if they both go AI behind you? even though youve got BB covered? I use nonAI only if there is at least two players behind that got me covered, but if there's only one i dont feel the need to since im not folding even if both go AI behind since only in the scenario of the shortie winning im busting. Ive started doubting this though after seeing your post so ive done some calcs. My ranges may be a bit off, but i dont think thats the point really:

im shoving (nonAI): 22+,A2s+,K7s+,Q9s+,J9s+,T9s, A5o+,KTo+,QTo+
SB reshoves: 66+,A6s+,KJs+, A8o+,KQo
BB overcalls: KK+

now two scenarios:
a) i fold - BB wins 78% (and im most likely bubbling out, i dont know how to count it really but what are the chances of getting in the money if we have 15 chips and they have ~1300 and ~1500, not massive probably :)), in the other 22% im 2nd or better (most likely 2nd since im a microstack by then)
b) i decide to call as well with my whole opening range - BB wins 66% (and im out), 33% im 2nd or better (and this time my chances for getting 1st are much bigger since its gonna be me winning the showdown 15% of the time, in the other 18% im obv busto but with the prize for 2nd)

so it looks that while we can obv use nonAI-AI, folding if they both shove behind would actually be a mistake with any hand. Thoughts?

well, unless i made some stupid mistake somewhere on the way, or simply my ranges are waaaaay off :)


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sorry i misread the stacks. its only non-ai-ai if you are the short stack. if you are the MS you can just stick it AI


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wiarygodny
Joined: 16.07.2009

thanks for the clarification, for a moment there i thought i got this completely wrong :)


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