NL10 SH speed:AKo

Hello,

I am just folding the flop here.
I don't really expect him to raise worse hands here and I think that we at the best scenario we are against a combo draw.

As played, checking turn is fine.

On the river I would plan to check/call there in case he decides to bet a busted draw.

Best,
Plamen

Isn't folding the flop too nitty? What hands that beats us could he have?

[FLOP]:
Wow, I'm confused...
I would like to know why folding flop is fine here please
I mean: is a 6max CO vs BTN situation right? He might be raising our CB with wider range then Sets and Flushdraws anyway, and we have AK TPTK afterall! - to early to pass imho

[TURN]
We improve to TopTrips and checking Turn is fine aswell?? What about making Flushdraws and weaker Ax pay?

bump

Why do we expect weaker Ax to raise this flop?

We are being three-way, we should strength preflop and on the flop, so when he raises I think his range consists mostly AQ/77 and hands like KhJh/KhQh which have combo draws.

Betting turn could be debated, if we think he's going for a check/call with his draws.

What do u mean by threeway? Is this not a headsup pot?

Hm, why would weaker Ax check/raise? maybe to get value from flushdraws? i dunno

He is just calling on the BTN vs CO raise - how do you see his calling range here please?

Cuz imho AQx should raise from the BTN here right? To prevent SB and BB from calling and creating a 4way pot right?

Everything else he would have called preflop and check/raised on the flop are:

set of 77 , weaker Ax, draws , pure bluffs i think...

But anyway, in an absolute worst case scenario, his range consisting of only 77, AQx and combo draws +:heart: flushdraw semibluffs gives us 45.85% Equity - is this not good enough in this spot?

( 77,AQs+,KTs+,QhJh,QhTh,JhTh,Kh9h,Qh9h,Jh9h,Th9h,9h8h,8h7h,AQo+ )

If we take away only AQx - we already get 53.5%

18/14/6.7 - for 6 handed it's piratically a nit, the best we are up against here is a flush draw, so yh a fold on flop is defiantly better.

"On the river I would plan to check/call there in case he decides to bet a busted draw." - I wouldn't agree with a check call on the river, since 18/14 looks like a man who knows how to play, so if he wanted to bluff his draws he would have bluff them on the turn!.

@adasko99 - well, we are three-handed on the flop, not heads up.

I think we can pretty much exclude hands like Q9s/K9s from his calling range preflop and also people at these stakes don't really tend to play their draws aggressively on the flop, especially when they are in a multiway pot and on this board our range is quite strong.
I think that as @sausage said, 18/14 on 6max is quite nitty, so I wouldn't really expect any pure bluffs from him and I think his raising range mostly consists AQ/77 and some strong draws such as KhJh against which we don't stay good at all and we don't know how he'd play them.

About check/call river - then what's your plan for the river there? What hands do you think he's going to bet?

Originally posted by kymupa
About check/call river - then what's your plan for the river there? What hands do you think he's going to bet?

Plan: Fold, If he had his flush draw he would have bet the turn, especially if he went with the aggressive semi bluff on this 3 way pot, so when he bets on the river his range mostly will be nutz, which he in some way he decided to slow play on turn.

In my opinion, people are often going to check back on this turn, as they have hardly any fold equity when get called on the flop.

Also, regs on these stakes do tend to do some weird bluffs so in my opinion we can go for a c/c there.

Originally posted by kymupa
In my opinion, people are often going to check back on this turn, as they have hardly any fold equity when get called on the flop.

-> and than on river when their bet now really doesn't make any sense they somehow thinks they have fold equity now and bluff.

"tend to make weird bluffs" -> fishes tend to make weird bluffs good regs = no.

I am sorry but those 2 arguments IMO are really, really bad..

Weird hand. With AQ im putting you all-in here all day long. Why he is checking 2 streets? With other FH he might bet turn as minimum.

Coach, wouldnt you bet/fold that river yourself when he checked on turn?

Originally posted by gAsheks
Weird hand. With AQ im putting you all-in here all day long. Why he is checking 2 streets?

The question was about: "if he would be betting the river would you make a call"

-> I couldn't see a bluff from him on the river (since if he wanted to bluff he would have done it on the turn, since on river it doesn't make any sense), just a delayed value bet, since he got it locked on the turn, had position and you wouldn't call on the turn with your flush draw (or weak aces too most likely) now when even the board paired. So if he would have bet the river, that would be delayed value bet from nutz (77,A7,AQ) my opinion.