Originally posted by iMumu
Originally posted by panahs
Many people have complaints about the RNG on pokerstars.Let 's advise pokerstars to change from RNG to live dealers online as others smaller companies have.
For example: [Edited by Lazza61 - This could be seen as promoting a competing poker room],Check it!!!
If pokerstars can proofs that they play fear game let try to put live dealers online. At my opinion as the biggest company at poker industry they can do this and all the people with complaints believe that they are loosing because are not good players.
My pokerstars account: panahscy
I am playing cashgames.What is your opinion?
believe
btw, what do you think how many live dealers they would actually need, compared to some smaller companies?
but yea id support this idea, would love to see live zoom dealers !
You cleary havnt seen japanese people in action. Zoom would be even faster with japanese live dealers
Originally posted by janushr
so,lets roll back to AA vs 22 hand,where odds "should" be 82-18,and tweak that a bit in other direction,IE...72% vs 28%,so now you win 7 times and guy suddenlly wins 3,so in that one win in long run,somebody more capable can count the difference,so eventually weaker player is provided with funds wich he didnt "deserve" in first place...the trick is that STARS didnt take that money,so you cant blame them...the guy shoving 22 first hand will eventually lose his funds,as that kind of play isnt "winning" prolly in long run...but he will play "longer",eventually part of those funds going on STARS account,wich perhapse wouldnt in beginning,as the winner could get enough and cash out some of his winnings,so STARS doesnt get a part of that cake...i am not here to start "conspiracy stories",as i certainly doesnt have any "real proof",but nor the other side has any proof that all is legit,you should trust them on their word...i am sorry,but if anyone disagree,please,let he put the links proving otherwise,and no "bullS***" link on stars RNG page,as that doesnt actually proof anything...
also,i am certainly no "PRO" and claiming that i know everything,but i am entitled to my personal opinion and "feel" that i have when playing poker and see what happens on court...my SN is JANUSHR...
Thank you for at least not saying that you know for sure that PS is rigged as we've witnessed countless others claim. I'm always always surprised seeing these arguments (though it is fun 
)
Firstly, the general assumption will be that you are not playing in a rigged site. Why else would you willingly put your money there? So if you feel that PS has skewed slightly the win %s, it is upto you to find conclusive evidence to prove it. Just you feeling that it is slightly skewed/rigged is illogical.
Losing AA x amount of times vs 22 is always possible. Im no math geek, but surely you could refer to std deviation and such. As a person who played blackjack/baccarat (yeah i know 
) you would easily realise you can lose 40 hands in a row very easily and this has ~50.7% win rate. Does that mean its skewed/rigged? Ofc not.
Just run an excel random formula with Heads and Tails over a sample of 1000 (500H, 500T). You would find that maybe from 281 to 481 there were 150H and 50T, but over long run it would even out.
Another thing you can see is the EV line. Just check out how much your green line deviates to the EV line over a million hands. It usually won't be much. If things are rigged @ 72% (as your eg) there would be a big big difference. Ofc there can be a few exceptions *cough*BSB*cough* but they are very few and far between.
So unless you do have conclusive proof that it is rigged, its pointless arguing about live dealers, RNG being slightly skewed.
Unfortunately you are probably gonna be trolled/made fun at, whenever this kind of topic comes as its something all of us find illogical. Its like saying 2+2 = 5 to us (not that the analogy is correct here ^^ )
Side note
To me, the main thing which differentiates Pokerstrategy to a site like 2+2 is how its members are respectful towards each other, especially when they disagree.
I've gone through different posts in 2+2 and its painful to read a lot of posts as they usually stem with rudeness, ego etc.
So far the OP and janushr have been polite and respectful with their opinions. It would only be right if we extend the same courtesy to them guys
zedawning,i fully respect your opinion,and thanks for respect my "feelings" about something...i try simple to gave my opinion,as i wiew some things...further,unfortunatly,STARS are perhapse just example here,as they are quit good at many things,just this one,lol,but other rooms are perhapse even worse at that acount,Ipoker or ongame,you name it...all i wanted to say in polite manners,is that i would like to get some "proof",or at least,that i dont witness so many suckouts...i like the game of poker,i find it fun and mentally challenge,but what i dont like is when i see a lots of examples where some weaker players is going with way worse hand,or being hard dominated,ane then miracle suckout by the river...i dont play much,mostly for my fun,so its not the question of big money involved...nor i ever lost any money,esppeccially big,so that somebody can say that i am prolly a fish or donk who lost money and now whine...
and also,i would also prefer to play with live dealer of some kind,i would feel more secure,lol,but for micro levels i also dont think it is perhapse possiblle...
