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nl 200 AA in 4b pot weird spot

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eszibit
Joined: 10.12.2007

Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

UTG: $396.58 (198.3 bb)
Hero (MP): $339.79 (169.9 bb)
CO: $234.25 (117.1 bb)
BTN: $200 (100 bb)
SB: $52.48 (26.2 bb)
BB: $200 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP with A A
UTG folds, Hero raises to $6, CO raises to $20, 3 folds, Hero raises to $42, CO calls $22

Flop: ($87) 7 8 T (2 players)
Hero bets $22, CO calls $22

Turn: ($131) J (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $48, Hero calls $48

River: ($227) 6 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $122.25 and is all-in, Hero calls $122.25

Results:

Spoiler

$471.50 pot ($3 rake)
Final Board: 7 8 T J 6
Hero showed A A and lost (-$234.25 net)
CO showed 9 J and won $468.50 ($234.25 net)

We have a 25bb fish in Sb that could be shoving light i guess 46/14 few hands

31/24 pretty good reg , 3b vs mp 7.4 and fold to 4b in MP 29% (7) even in 20k hands not enough sample of fold to 4b , overall 38% fold to 4b

Fto cb in 4b pot 48%

On that turn i really hate my sizing on the flop but i was thinking that he doesnt really 3b/call with pocket pairs and suited connectors so i should be fine and his call 4b range should be broadways like AQ etc that dominate my bluff 4b range.

Anyway,a lot of history with him ,a lot of playing against eachother

So i just tried to induce something from him giving the fact that i dominate his broadway (what i thought) range

The 4b range that he calls ,courtesy of notecaddy "QQ,TT,77,A7s,A4s-A3s,KTs,KQs,J8s,86s,76s,63s,45s,AQ-AT,KQ,QT+ (75/78) "

Dunno if that helps because i dont know in what conditions he could call a 45s 4b profitable

Sorry for the long post but this hand is weird


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serverm07
Joined: 08.08.2012

Hi,

I thought about this for a while as it is indeed a weird/tough spot.

Pre- I would 4bet a tad bit bigger, just to give him worse price on a call. Like 46$ but w/e just being nitpicky.

Flop- After thinking a long time about what I think his range is given stats and positions, I actually think there are two possible lines here First line is to 1/2 pot turn and jam blank turns, 2-5, Q, and K/A I might do something different. 7 I also jam, 8 I'm not sure it's close. T I check. all other cards I x/decide. I think that's about my strat here. The problem I run into with this line is that I wouldn't cbet AK/AQ here so I want to protect my x range.

Then I think the alternative is to x/r the flop, I'm not quite sure the exact sizing but given his stats I think he typically 3bets a linear range and gets call happy with a lot of scs and also I think players have the tendency to auto bet in these spots when checked to with 89/T9.

Since we hold AA we block him from holding AK/AQ/, he probably doesn't 3bet big broadways here and he probably doesn't 3bet TT/88/77 here like you mentioned so that leaves me to believe he has a lot of 89/T9/87/JT stuff here, so I'm not quite sure which line is the best vs that, probably the second.

With that being said, I think turn we can x/f. River is a definite x/f for me because to him it probably looks like you have what you have and he should be able to vbet very thinly, he has more 9s than you and he probably is also jamming TJ here since you have like no 9x in your range. Yea obv AA is top of your range here, but I don't believe he will go to crazy bluffing here, which AA also blocks some of his 3bet bluffing hands that could turn hands into bluffs, A8s etc.

That's the best I got for you. hope that helps.


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eszibit
Joined: 10.12.2007

Thx for the reply,seems good.

Can't reply constructively because i still can't understand why somebody would 3bet/call 4b here with 78-89-T9 when he can play much better in position in a single raise pot where he can apply more pressure in position.

+ there is a 25bb fish that can shove with random hands that crush his scs type gands but he still needs to call.


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