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JohnyC1337
Joined: 27.05.2011

Villain 22/19, MP open 20%, fold vs 3bet on MP 60%, fold vs cbet oop in 3BP 60%, stab turn oop IN 3BP 21%, river c/r in 3BP 10%, w$sd when river c/r 75%

OTF I just wanted to ck/back and try to get do SD because his turn stab is so low (I wasn´t worried of being bluffed). OTT + OTR I have easy valuebets BUT...

What should I do vs c/r OTR?

What should I do vs c/jam OTR?

What should I do vs c/r OTT?

What is my bluffing range on T+R bet? (no draws on the board)

Should I just c/jam OTR in villains place a lot as a bluff because the strongest hand he can call is AK? (lets say the second king doesnt come OTR so there is no trips possible)

Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

Hero (BTN): $193.45 (193.5 bb)
SB: $111.51 (111.5 bb)
BB: $100 (100 bb)
UTG: $74.02 (74 bb)
MP: $204.30 (204.3 bb)
CO: $44.29 (44.3 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with K A
UTG folds, MP raises to $3, CO folds, Hero raises to $9, 2 folds, MP calls $6

Flop: ($19.50) 2 7 8 (2 players)
MP checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($19.50) K (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $9.50, MP calls $9.50

River: ($38.50) K (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $25.50, MP raises to $59, Hero calls $33.50

Results:

Spoiler

$156.50 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 2 7 8 K K
Hero mucked K A and lost (-$77.50 net)
MP showed 7 7 and won $153.70 ($76.20 net)


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Timontana
Joined: 21.03.2008

I like the check f alot. If i bet turn i bet with a polarized rAnge. And if i bet pola im going to bet very big smth like 1 1/2 of the pot. Question is if that is a good turn to bet pola, i dont think so, but it can be good. Hes always on a bluffcatcher imo because villains are too paranoid to check back value for deception.wouldnt that mean that its good to bet polarized ?


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lnternet
Joined: 19.06.2012

Flop is good. Although turning it into a bluff is very reasonable as well, depends a bit how loose your dynamic is. If you think he calls a cbet with AJ/KQ sometimes, don't start bluffing, whereas if you think he might fold TT to 2barrels, bluffing is likely best.

You have 6 nuts outs and good showdown value, so it's not too clear which option is best.

Turn bet, like Timon said, bet bigger. You are repping AK only (some K7s/K8s perhaps), which is super strong, and you want to get more value. As bluffs, you take any low showdownvalue hand you gave up with on the flop. A2s-A5s makes sense, but really up to you which hands you have in your range at that point to bluff with. You dont need many.

River bet also bigger. You are still repping strong Kx or a bluff.

If he raises turn, depends on his size, but you typically call AK only and then call a river bet the appropriate percentage of times.

If he raises river, you call the appropriate percentage. So here, he is making a 37% pot raise, so you call 73% of your value bets, which is probably only AK, so 73% of all AK.

His river sizing is WAY too small too btw, he loses a lot of value like that.


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adrimam67
Joined: 18.11.2010

I don't see that much bluffs he could have.

When he c/c ott he often has SD value, so why would he turn it into a bluff otr against a polarized range (which doesn't contain that much bluffs btw) ?

So even if it looks result oriented, I think he has the nuts almost all the time.


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